The Mighty Mite Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Even though he’s pretty lousy in LF I’m hoping he finally has figured things out, let’s hope so because he’s got 3 years left with the Sox. Maybe if he’s on fire the last month and a half some team might take him off our hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) Agreed. Benintendi at 13 homers right now is amazing after how he started the season. If he can get up to a .270 AVG and .750 OPS, he will at least be playable and perhaps even tradable. If the Sox ever acquire a better defensive LF, they can move Benintendi to DH. Edited August 11 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 2 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: Even though he’s pretty lousy in LF I’m hoping he finally has figured things out, let’s hope so because he’s got 3 years left with the Sox. Maybe if he’s on fire the last month and a half some team might take him off our hands. Nobody will take his salary off your hands based on a six week sample size compared with the last two years. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, FloydBannister1983 said: Nobody will take his salary off your hands based on a six week sample size compared with the last two years. I think this goes back to something that has come up a couple times. The Sox not only have to be high bidders for a free agent but by a significant margin. The "we suck as a franchise penalty". Once we have them, moving then gets tough. Would he have played elsewhere for the same money? A million less? Five million less? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Only his agent knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Would you consider trading him to Detroit for Javy Baez? One bad contract for another. i would probably say no. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 9 minutes ago, Johno said: Would you consider trading him to Detroit for Javy Baez? One bad contract for another. i would probably say no. No, and here’s why… Benintendi: 25:$16.5M, 26:$16.5M, 27:$14.5M Baez: 25:$25M, 26:$24M, 27:$24M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: No, and here’s why… Benintendi: 25:$16.5M, 26:$16.5M, 27:$14.5M Baez: 25:$25M, 26:$24M, 27:$24M If they paid the contract down to even dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Johno said: Would you consider trading him to Detroit for Javy Baez? One bad contract for another. i would probably say no. For even dollars and because SS is the leader of that infield and we don’t have one. Clearly the best defender of all possibilities (compared to incoming rookies), but do you really want him as your team leader? At this point, at least Benintendi has reconciled himself to fate and knows playing better is the only way out unless Red Sox get overly sentimental about a return engagement. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/_/year/2025/position/ss/sort/contract_value There’s the bleak list. Kim will likely stay in SD and Adames out of their price range. Edited August 12 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Extend him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Snopek said: Extend him. Not even Getz is THAT bad. Hopefully. As of right now, he’s your best returning hitter, pending whatever happens with Vaughn and Robert. Edited August 12 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) Baez has been even worse than Benintendi and looks to be declining in each of the past three seasons. He’s also turning 32 this winter. He’s only going to get worse. 2022: .671 OPS 2023: .592 OPS 2024: .497 OPS I don’t think there’s a team in baseball that would trade for Baez, unless Detroit included one of their top prospects in the deal. Edited August 12 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 .211 batting average and 40 RBI kind of reeks if anybody's using the old stats. You know what's funny? People that love the old time stats for hitters BA HR RBI SBs get mocked by the advanced-stat people. Yet all the baseball announcers use BA HR RBI SBs, even pitcher wins and losses and ERA during their telecasts. Hilarious. And quite the non sequitir. Did anybody see Bill James, the original Sabes guy write earlier this season that advanced stats have ruined the game? I enjoyed reading that. But to conclude Beni reeks despite his 13 homers or however many he's hit. .211 doesn't cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I think Benny is going to get packaged with Crochet in a trade this offseason, Getz will get jack in return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 6 hours ago, greg775 said: .211 batting average and 40 RBI kind of reeks if anybody's using the old stats. You know what's funny? People that love the old time stats for hitters BA HR RBI SBs get mocked by the advanced-stat people. Yet all the baseball announcers use BA HR RBI SBs, even pitcher wins and losses and ERA during their telecasts. Hilarious. And quite the non sequitir. Did anybody see Bill James, the original Sabes guy write earlier this season that advanced stats have ruined the game? I enjoyed reading that. But to conclude Beni reeks despite his 13 homers or however many he's hit. .211 doesn't cut it. The game is so different. I used to play Strat-o-matic as a kid. I loved homers, hits and walks. Dave Kingman was a whiff machine back in the day. But his career high was 156, which is close to the pace Andrew Vaughn is on this year, and whiff machine doesn't even cross my mind thinking of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: The game is so different. I used to play Strat-o-matic as a kid. I loved homers, hits and walks. Dave Kingman was a whiff machine back in the day. But his career high was 156, which is close to the pace Andrew Vaughn is on this year, and whiff machine doesn't even cross my mind thinking of him. Strat-o-matic was the greatest baseball game ever. I ran a league when I was stationed on a semi-remote Air Force Radar Site in South Dakota in 1966-67. Ran a league with this exact Eagle Toys Hockey also, wasn’t much to do in South Dakota. No one could beat me at that game. Sorry for getting off my topic. Edited August 12 by The Mighty Mite 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 George Brett 1980 almost .400 hitter rules….Stratomatic version, and Omar Moreno on the basepaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) Delete Edited August 12 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Quite the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 16 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Agreed. Benintendi at 13 homers right now is amazing after how he started the season. If he can get up to a .270 AVG and .750 OPS, he will at least be playable and perhaps even tradable. If the Sox ever acquire a better defensive LF, they can move Benintendi to DH. We need everything, it’s been years since we’ve had a MLB rightfielder or second baseman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 53 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: We need everything, it’s been years since we’ve had a MLB rightfielder or second baseman. Or LFer… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 6 hours ago, Dick Allen said: The game is so different. I used to play Strat-o-matic as a kid. I loved homers, hits and walks. Dave Kingman was a whiff machine back in the day. But his career high was 156, which is close to the pace Andrew Vaughn is on this year, and whiff machine doesn't even cross my mind thinking of him. Did anybody play All-Star Baseball as a kid, the game with the player discs? It was one for home run, 9 for strikeout, 7 for a single I think. Anyway the discs came with the game (which you could play alone) but I as a kid found some where you could order discs. I sent away for some discs (no internet back then) and when they arrived in the mail it was an early Christmas. Disks of Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Hack Wilson and all the modern players as well. Pitchers had to hit back then so there were indeed disks of pitchers' too. They were accurate or tried to be as guys like Bob Gibson could hit a little bit and some other guys could never get a hit. This may have been my favorite game as a kid. You could play with friends as well but for some reason it was more fun to play alone. https://www.ebay.com/itm/285971872212?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-166974-028196-7&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=285971872212&targetid=2357078962517&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9023847&poi=&campaignid=20903471692&mkgroupid=161081173195&rlsatarget=pla-2357078962517&abcId=9362635&merchantid=6296724&geoid=9023847&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5ea1BhC6ARIsAEOG5pxnms8Y-Q19kCq8Raw-15qZ5mxtzCeTeT0NY9oKzhv-0LYP9Zr4hq0aAnp7EALw_wcB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Benintendi sucks, I wish they could strap him and Crochet onto a rocket and fire them into the sun for all I care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 You mean there are games that don't require a phone or pc? Amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 4 minutes ago, The Grinder said: You mean there are games that don't require a phone or pc? Amazing Yeah, dude. It's called a PlayStation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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