southsider2k5 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Gordon Beckham making it sound like Pedro was grinding too hard on the guys. He's talking about how sometimes less is more, you don't need to be there at noon every day etc, really making it sound like Grady is going easier on the team, and not harder, almost like Pedro was overdoing things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Gordon Beckham making it sound like Pedro was grinding too hard on the guys. He's talking about how sometimes less is more, you don't need to be there at noon every day etc, really making it sound like Grady is going easier on the team, and not harder, almost like Pedro was overdoing things. I mean it makes perfect sense. Like when Pedro said he "wouldn't watch the eclipse because there are more important things to be doing". Stop being a tryhard, you aren't losing any edge by spending 5 mins of your 8+ hour day at the park enjoying something. Edited August 17 by DoUEvenShift 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 9 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said: I mean it makes perfect sense. Like when Pedro said he "wouldn't watch the eclipse because there are more important things to be doing". Stop being a tryhard, you aren't losing any edge by spending 5 mins of your 8+ hour day at the park enjoying something. There was definitely a camp that seemed to think that out guys weren't putting in work and were just lazy. It was interesting to hear the problem might have been burnout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: There was definitely a camp that seemed to think that out guys weren't putting in work and were just lazy. It was interesting to hear the problem might have been burnout. Burnout or tuneout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) That’s completely old school baseball…having to be around the park all day long. Thought that ended with Joe Maddon, lol. Skip Schumaker comes from that same old TLR coaching tree with McEwing. Grady seems more like Baldelli or Gabe or even Gordon himself. basically too controlling, micromanaging, the opposite of Renteria as player’s manager…somehow best friends with Eduardo Perez, but I always felt Eduardo had a much better sense of humor and knew how to make fun of himself and blend in seamlessly Edited August 17 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: There was definitely a camp that seemed to think that out guys weren't putting in work and were just lazy. It was interesting to hear the problem might have been burnout. Shockingly, Moncada just decided not to be around him the entire season and simply collect his $29 million. on second thought, without Grandal around any longer, totally predictable Edited August 17 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) On one hand Sox fans think their players are lazy and only care about image (Moncada, Eloy, Robert), and then it's the manager's fault for being too hard on them. I think there's a certain part of the fan base who just masturbates to anything negative because they think it makes them edgy. Edited August 17 by TaylorStSox 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 I doubt Beckham knows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 I don't know about the players are being lazy, the exception is if you hear they are not putting in the work at rehab with the trainers. Hiring Pedro was a mistake from the get-go and it proved out in the end. Seeing Grady at the helm I believe that he has the players best interest at heart and they are buying in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) Bottom line is Grifol was a horrible manager of a horrible baseball team put together by a horrible GM who answers to a horrible owner. Edited August 17 by The Mighty Mite 7 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 7 hours ago, kitekrazy said: I doubt Beckham knows I’m sure he gets his info from Getz. What Gordo thinks is probably what Getz told him. Gordo in the godfather to one of Getz ‘s kids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 19 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Bottom line is Grifol was a horrible manager of a horrible baseball team put together by a horrible GM who answers to a horrible owner. You’re batting 1.000. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 What would Grady have to do for you guys to say he should be the manager next year? I think if he can go 17-23 the rest of the way and players seem engaged and relaxed I feel he could be given chance. That's just me tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 9 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I’m sure he gets his info from Getz. What Gordo thinks is probably what Getz told him. Gordo is probably THE FATHER to one of Getz ‘s kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JoshPR said: What would Grady have to do for you guys to say he should be the manager next year? I think if he can go 17-23 the rest of the way and players seem engaged and relaxed I feel he could be given chance. That's just me tho I would be happy if they could win one game a series which I believe would give them 43 wins and avoid being the worst team in the modern era. That’s pretty bad that things are so lousy that I’d be happy with 43 wins but it is what it is. Edited August 17 by The Mighty Mite 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 9 hours ago, TaylorStSox said: On one hand Sox fans think their players are lazy and only care about image (Moncada, Eloy, Robert), and then it's the manager's fault for being too hard on them. I think there's a certain part of the fan base who just masturbates to anything negative because they think it makes them edgy. Edgy? Lol Anyway, I think there’s a lot more nuance to it. For instance, both of your above examples can be true. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 9 minutes ago, Snopek said: Edgy? Lol Anyway, I think there’s a lot more nuance to it. For instance, both of your above examples can be true. Or. In a market where local sports media is more worried about access over anything resembling investigative reporting, some sort of a minimal look at the view from the locker room could be interesting to some in a season where we haven't gotten much behind the scenes as to why and what players might be thinking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 8 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: Bottom line is Grifol was a horrible manager of a horrible baseball team put together by a horrible GM who answers to a horrible owner. Unqualified manager that was hired by an unqualified GM that put together one of the worst rosters ever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, ChiSoxJon said: Unqualified manager that was hired by an unqualified GM that put together one of the worst rosters ever Getz did not hire Grifol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) Grady sending Robert to steal second while down by three runs late in the game was foolish and Beckham noted that. Not sure if Sizemore is an effective baseball strategist but whatever, the franchise, as it is, lacks sufficient major league talent at all levels to field a competitive major league team. When Colson Montgomery, the Sox no. 1 prospect, is floundering in the Minors, one wonders how many years it will take to build a competitive roster. Sox Ownership and Management have damaged the franchise irrevocably and cast aside generations of fans who have grown sick and tired of supporting them. Edited August 18 by tray 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 On 8/16/2024 at 11:57 PM, TaylorStSox said: On one hand Sox fans think their players are lazy and only care about image (Moncada, Eloy, Robert), and then it's the manager's fault for being too hard on them. I think there's a certain part of the fan base who just masturbates to anything negative because they think it makes them edgy. Sorry we don’t give this lousy organization the benefit of the doubt it so much deserves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 On 8/17/2024 at 8:07 AM, JoshPR said: What would Grady have to do for you guys to say he should be the manager next year? I think if he can go 17-23 the rest of the way and players seem engaged and relaxed I feel he could be given chance. That's just me tho I think if Grady has anything even resembling success the rest of this year he should use that to try and find a job elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 12 minutes ago, supernuke said: I think if Grady has anything even resembling success the rest of this year he should use that to try and find a job elsewhere. That would definitely be the best move for his career. Just look at the past 10+ years of Sox managers. The Sox are their last stop in the MLB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 21 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: That would definitely be the best move for his career. Just look at the past 10+ years of Sox managers. The Sox are their last stop in the MLB. Not to mention Hahn, KW, Jeremy Haber, Hostetler (unless he was taken back in by the Braves)...Barfield not off to the greatest start with Fletcher, but he's already seemingly the heir-apparent to Getz. Not sure exactly what connection Dayton Moore has at this exact moment, believe it's fairly minimal. TLR's footprint is obviously much stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 19 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Not to mention Hahn, KW, Jeremy Haber, Hostetler (unless he was taken back in by the Braves)...Barfield not off to the greatest start with Fletcher, but he's already seemingly the heir-apparent to Getz. Not sure exactly what connection Dayton Moore has at this exact moment, believe it's fairly minimal. TLR's footprint is obviously much stronger. Dayton Moore works for the Texas Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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