Lip Man 1 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 A through, scathing look at JR's history with the White Sox and his multitude of mistakes: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/jerry-reinsdorf-keeps-failing-the-white-sox-forty-years-of-ownership-and-almost-nothing-to-show-for-it/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox72 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Great article! And not the same surface complaints we read over and over. Gets a little more into the depths of thing (inasmuch as possible in a short article). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Give the guy a break. We have failed him. He only asks for $1 billion so he can build a park where he can compete with KC and Det and Minn and Cle. How can he compete with them now? 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) I agree with Sox 72, a great article and pretty scathing and because it will be read nationally, maybe Reinsdorf and his family will embarrassed enough to sell to someone who would bring winning baseball to the Southside. Edited August 21 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 4 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: I agree with Sox 72, a great article and pretty scathing and maybe Reinsdorf and his family will embarrassed enough to sell to someone who would bring winning baseball to the Southside. I'd say the chances of this happening are about the same as the Yankees bringing in Hahn and Pedro this winter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) 42 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: I agree with Sox 72, a great article and pretty scathing and because it will be read nationally, maybe Reinsdorf and his family will embarrassed enough to sell to someone who would bring winning baseball to the Southside. Jerry wont sell because of taxes. He is waiting to die so it passes to his family Edited August 21 by reiks12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 @WhiteSox2023 Read it learn it. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/jerry-reinsdorf-keeps-failing-the-white-sox-forty-years-of-ownership-and-almost-nothing-to-show-for-it/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: @WhiteSox2023 Read it learn it. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/jerry-reinsdorf-keeps-failing-the-white-sox-forty-years-of-ownership-and-almost-nothing-to-show-for-it/ I don’t think anyone dismisses that Jerry is the larger problem for the Sox. Jerry being a terrible owner with restrictions and front office personnel sucking at their job can both be true. Edited August 21 by Bob Sacamano 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: I don’t think anyone dismisses that Jerry is the larger problem for the Sox. Jerry being a terrible owner with restrictions and front office personnel sucking at their can both be true. I think hiring the wrong people, then stepping in and overruling the people he hires (like the TLR hiring) are a pretty big cause for there being a bad front office. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 50 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: @WhiteSox2023 Read it learn it. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/jerry-reinsdorf-keeps-failing-the-white-sox-forty-years-of-ownership-and-almost-nothing-to-show-for-it/ You act like I don’t know this. You also seem to think that no GM under JR can have any success. Then how did 2005 happen? A GM under JR can also be terrible (see Chris Getz). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) The only thing that will fix this franchise is when that guy is listed in an obit in the local papers just like Dollar Bill Wirtz. IMHO He is a horrible owner. The only thing going for me is that he isnt immortal. Eventually father time will clean up this mess and hopefully the next owner isnt this guy. Edited August 21 by southsideirish71 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 4 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: I don’t think anyone dismisses that Jerry is the larger problem for the Sox. Jerry being a terrible owner with restrictions and front office personnel sucking at their job can both be true. I never said both can't be true but replacing Getz with someone else equally not suited for the job doesn't accomplish anything . And you know that's what would happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You act like I don’t know this. You also seem to think that no GM under JR can have any success. Then how did 2005 happen? A GM under JR can also be terrible (see Chris Getz). It is not 2005 any more. 2005 only reinforced JRs thinking that some moves that turned into gold is possible when in reality it couldn't be sustained even the very next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Hardly great journalism, but all true of course. A rehash of what every poster here already knew, plus a bit of old fashioned knife twisting. Who’s the author, one of the CBS locals? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 22 Author Share Posted August 22 Just now, Stinky Stanky said: Hardly great journalism, but all true of course. A rehash of what every poster here already knew, plus a bit of old fashioned knife twisting. Who’s the author, one of the CBS locals? Nope, Dayn Perry is the national baseball reporter for CBS Sports. And I got an e-mail from a long time front office employee who said the story brought out some points that even they did not know about, they didn't elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 28 minutes ago, Stinky Stanky said: Hardly great journalism, but all true of course. A rehash of what every poster here already knew, plus a bit of old fashioned knife twisting. Who’s the author, one of the CBS locals? No local reporter would ever write this. Ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Nope, Dayn Perry is the national baseball reporter for CBS Sports. And I got an e-mail from a long time front office employee who said the story brought out some points that even they did not know about, they didn't elaborate. So it would be news to a national audience. OK, understandable. Around here, SOS. He lives here per Wikipedia. Edited August 22 by Stinky Stanky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I never said both can't be true but replacing Getz with someone else equally not suited for the job doesn't accomplish anything . And you know that's what would happen. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 If this has been discussed I apologize, but have to ask, what’s with the “…” after every thread title??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 It's 'funny' to think that when Reinsdorf/Einhorn bought the team there was much consternation and criticism of what they'd do to the franchise. 'Funny' that at the end of the JR tenure is when it finally showed its ugly head that people were right. Sox had been good enough years and mediocre enough years to go with 2005 for people to be moderately happy. Only the double tank years have shown JR's true side. Lousy owner who won't sell. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 26 minutes ago, RTC said: If this has been discussed I apologize, but have to ask, what’s with the “…” after every thread title??? https://www.grammarly.com/blog/ellipsis/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Well written article, covered a lot of his history and dubious. Lmao at stanky calling it “hardly great journalism”. Did you read past the title? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) Reindorf deserves to get called out but for all you younger Sox fans you might not know about Einhorn's disaster. Eddie Einhorn takes it upon himself without GM Roland Hemond's involvement in tossing Doug Drabek in as a player to be named later in a 1986 trade with the Yankees. Hemond was stunned with the absolute stupidity by Eddie but had to keep his mouth shut. Drabek won the Cy Young in 1990 with the Pirates and was a stud from the late 1980's through the mid 1990's. The 1990 White Sox won 94 games with a young up and coming team, adding Drabek to that team would have been special. I wouldn't be surprised if Lip has written articles about this in the past. Edited August 22 by Falstaff 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 38 minutes ago, Falstaff said: Reindorf deserves to get called out but for all you younger Sox fans you might not know about Einhorn's disaster. Eddie Einhorn takes it upon himself without GM Roland Hemond's involvement in tossing Doug Drabek in as a player to be named later in a 1986 trade with the Yankees. Hemond was stunned with the absolute stupidity by Eddie but had to keep his mouth shut. Drabek won the Cy Young in 1990 with the Pirates and was a stud from the late 1980's through the mid 1990's. The 1990 White Sox won 94 games with a young up and coming team, adding Drabek to that team would have been special. I wouldn't be surprised if Lip has written articles about this in the past. I’m certainly not gonna hold up Einhorn throwing in a a good player in a bad trade against Jerry Reinsdorfs entire tenure. These are not remotely comparable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 15 hours ago, southsideirish71 said: The only thing that will fix this franchise is when that guy is listed in an obit in the local papers just like Dollar Bill Wirtz. IMHO He is a horrible owner. The only thing going for me is that he isnt immortal. Eventually father time will clean up this mess and hopefully the next owner isnt this guy. If there's one thing I've learned in my Sox fandom, it's that I won't believe anything related to Reinsdorf until it finally happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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