Clevinger accused of Domestic Abuse again, while with Sox, by a different woman

[Balta1701]

 

This is a different woman from the pre-2023 investigation.

[southsider2k5]

Of course he was.

[WhiteSox2023]

What is this video supposed to even show?

That he spanked his child?

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

A spanking?  oh no.. If this is all over a spanking, we are silly

[caulfield12]

Here we go again.

Just based on his injury history the last five years alone, they were playing with fire.

[Buehrle>Wood]

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

What is this video supposed to even show?

That he spanked his child?

The video is from before his time with the Sox apparently. I guess the title comes from

 

"then he was accused yet again of child abuse with a different woman and child while employed with the @whitesox"

 

Seems to be No other context for that.

[WhiteSox2023]

8 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

The video is from before his time with the Sox apparently. I guess the title comes from

 

"then he was accused yet again of child abuse with a different woman and child while employed with the @whitesox"

 

Seems to be No other context for that.

Okay, thanks.  The video didn’t really match the post, so I was trying to understand if the Twitter poster was trying to say that parents who spank their children are child abusers, since that’s all the video is about.

Edited August 27 by WhiteSox2023

[WestEddy]

I'd be happy for the Sox to announce they reupped Mike Soroka for a year, and in the announcement, say, "We're doing this to ensure we will never sign Mike Clevinger again."

[WestEddy]

3 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

A spanking?  oh no.. If this is all over a spanking, we are silly

If two estranged parents disagree about physical discipline, yeah, it could be problematic if one parent ignores the other's wishes. 

[Rusty]

The ex girlfriend was on Twitter today dragging him about drug use.  He’ll never play another inning in MLB for the rest of his life.  Probably the worst acquisition in Getz’ first year although the fact you can preface that statement with “probably” shows how incompetent and overwhelmed Getz has been thus far.

[Bob Sacamano]

14 hours ago, Rusty said:

The ex girlfriend was on Twitter today dragging him about drug use.  He’ll never play another inning in MLB for the rest of his life.  Probably the worst acquisition in Getz’ first year although the fact you can preface that statement with “probably” shows how incompetent and overwhelmed Getz has been thus far.

This should have been a true statement prior to this season but he can thank the White Sox for that one.

[Rusty]

1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said:

This should have been a true statement prior to this season but he can thank the White Sox for that one.

100%.  Let’s be honest…Getz has had a lot of bad moves, but signing a known piece of s%*# that zero other MLB teams had an interest in because…he was a known piece of s%*# and then having multiple people talk about his “clubhouse presence” calling him a “good teammate” and mentioning “character.”  It’s disgusting.  Has a media member ever actually asked a serious question about the handling of the Omar Vizquel and Wes Helms situation?

[WhiteSox2023]

26 minutes ago, Rusty said:

100%.  Let’s be honest…Getz has had a lot of bad moves, but signing a known piece of s%*# that zero other MLB teams had an interest in because…he was a known piece of s%*# and then having multiple people talk about his “clubhouse presence” calling him a “good teammate” and mentioning “character.”  It’s disgusting.  Has a media member ever actually asked a serious question about the handling of the Omar Vizquel and Wes Helms situation?

Clevinger came cheap due to his issues.  Just like Pham, but due to his age instead.  I have no doubt that was why the Sox signed both guys.  Cheapness and potential to flip them at the deadline, but we see how that went…

Edited August 28 by WhiteSox2023

[Rusty]

29 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Clevinger came cheap due to his issues.  Just like Pham, but due to his age instead.  I have no doubt that was why the Sox signed both guys.  Cheapness and potential to flip them at the deadline, but we see how that went…

Just wait until they decline the club option on Moncada but then sign him to the “cheap” one year deal because of his injury history and…the fact that he doesn’t seem to even want to actually play baseball 🤣

[southsider2k5]

1 minute ago, Rusty said:

Just wait until they decline the club option on Moncada but then sign him to the “cheap” one year deal because of his injury history and…the fact that he doesn’t seem to even want to actually play baseball 🤣

He's never coming back. They have already started the character assassination that comes with a certain type of players.

[hi8is]

I don’t like him one bit but what’s being shown here? Seems like nothing.

People are so quick to jump aboard allegations but as a target of false claims which still are causing damage that I am contending to finally bring justice to, it important to let reason win out over emotion.

You don’t really know just how hard it is until you live it and learn what it’s like to try swimming up stream.

Edited August 29 by hi8is

[wrathofhahn]

I wanted to trade him last trade deadline when he was playing well and had value. He'll leave at the end of the year anyways and be someone elses problem.

Even with his history his pitching stats when healthy will get multiple clubs to offer him a contract.

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

On 8/27/2024 at 8:40 AM, WhiteSox2023 said:

What is this video supposed to even show?

That he spanked his child?

 

On 8/27/2024 at 9:25 AM, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

A spanking?  oh no.. If this is all over a spanking, we are silly

You think it's OK to hit your children? 

Can someone please show me one piece of evidence or data that viable supports spanking as anything more than a way to teach your child violence? Add in the fact he doesn't have primary custody and the mother clearly is against it, and of course this is child abuse. 

Hilarious that people think spanking or using a belt on your kid is different than punching them or other forms of physical violence. 

“The findings are one of the last pieces of evidence to make sense of the research of the last 50 years on spanking,” says researcher Jorge Cuartas, a Ph.D. candidate at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, who coauthored the study with Katie McLaughlin, professor at the Department of Psychology at Harvard University. “We know that spanking is not effective and can be harmful for children’s development and increases the chance of mental health issues. With these new findings, we also know it can have potential impact on brain development, changing biology, and leading to lasting consequences.”
 
The study, “Corporal Punishment and Elevated Neural Response to Threat in Children,” published in Child Development, examined spanked children’s brain functioning in response to perceived environmental threats compared to children who were not spanked. Their findings showed that spanked children exhibited greater brain response, suggesting that spanking can alter children’s brain function in similar ways to severe forms of maltreatment.

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/ideas/usable-knowledge/21/04/effect-spanking-brain

Edited August 29 by Look at Ray Ray Run

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

17 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said:

I wanted to trade him last trade deadline when he was playing well and had value. He'll leave at the end of the year anyways and be someone elses problem.

Even with his history his pitching stats when healthy will get multiple clubs to offer him a contract.

Huh? No one wanted clevinger which is why he ended up here.

[Harry Chappas]

The issue last year was sketchy and I think it was a little biased against him because of the COVID antics.

Resigning him was idiotic but along the lines of how bad Getz is at his job.  Then there are the ties to some partial owner.

He will never pitch again. 

He was very irritating to watch pitch which fits in line with all of the other s%*# he did to make him so incredibly unlikable.

 

[WhiteSox2023]

2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

 

You think it's OK to hit your children? 

Can someone please show me one piece of evidence or data that viable supports spanking as anything more than a way to teach your child violence? Add in the fact he doesn't have primary custody and the mother clearly is against it, and of course this is child abuse. 

Hilarious that people think spanking or using a belt on your kid is different than punching them or other forms of physical violence. 

“The findings are one of the last pieces of evidence to make sense of the research of the last 50 years on spanking,” says researcher Jorge Cuartas, a Ph.D. candidate at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, who coauthored the study with Katie McLaughlin, professor at the Department of Psychology at Harvard University. “We know that spanking is not effective and can be harmful for children’s development and increases the chance of mental health issues. With these new findings, we also know it can have potential impact on brain development, changing biology, and leading to lasting consequences.”
 
The study, “Corporal Punishment and Elevated Neural Response to Threat in Children,” published in Child Development, examined spanked children’s brain functioning in response to perceived environmental threats compared to children who were not spanked. Their findings showed that spanked children exhibited greater brain response, suggesting that spanking can alter children’s brain function in similar ways to severe forms of maltreatment.

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/ideas/usable-knowledge/21/04/effect-spanking-brain

Spanking is legal in all 50 states as long as it is not considered to be excessive.

Also, unless it is specifically stated in a court order that Clevinger is not to spank his child, your point about him not having primary custody would not matter and it would still be legal for him to spank his child.

Assuming there is no court order with this language, none of this would constitute child abuse in the eyes of the law, which is why I thought it was strange that the video in the tweet was even shared by whomever the “Goblin Gobbler” is.  My guess is that this is also why the White Sox did nothing with this video, as it proves nothing.

Finally, no one mentioned using a belt until you did.  That may be considered “excessive” which could be deemed child abuse by the courts, rather than legal open-hand spanking.

Edited August 29 by WhiteSox2023

[wrathofhahn]

Spanking isn't child abuse, if parents want to spank their children that is their right. Just like there is right to try to be their best friend rather than an actual parent.

Raise your kids how you want to, and stay out of other peoples business.

Edited August 29 by wrathofhahn

[Bob Sacamano]

1 minute ago, wrathofhahn said:

Spanking isn't child abuse, if parents want to spank their children that is their right. Just like there is right to try to be their best friend rather than an actual parent.

Raise your kids how you want to, and stay out of other peoples business.

Right, but the parents both have to be on the same page about this.

[Bob Sacamano]

2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Huh? No one wanted clevinger which is why he ended up here.

Yeah he's lucky he somehow got an MLB deal this season. He'll never throw a pitch in the MLB ever again after this year.

Edited August 29 by Bob Sacamano

[wrathofhahn]

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Right, but the parents both have to be on the same page about this.

If you are asking should they be on the same page? Yes they should be. They should set aside their differences and agree to raise their child together in a way that is not confusing for the child and support each other. Legally? It's not the business of the courts to sort out disagreements over how to parent.