WhiteSox2023 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boopa1219 said: I’m a fan of Vargas because he sees a ton of pitches. They need more guys like that. That only works if he can also hit as well. Otherwise he’s a taller Eddie Gaedel. .151 AVG and .509 OPS Vargas is awful. Edited September 29 by WhiteSox2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: That only works if he can also hit as well. Otherwise he’s a taller Eddie Gaedel. .151 AVG and .509 OPS Vargas is awful. .104 average with the Sox. Didn’t have a multi-hit game with them. A complete and total scouting failure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 7 minutes ago, fathom said: .104 average with the Sox. Didn’t have a multi-hit game with them. A complete and total scouting failure. Yep. LA was not going to waste a roster spot on him, so let's give him to the White Sox. So, when does Getz pull the plug on him? Are they gonna play him for 2-3 months of next season? That'll be fun to watch. A left side infield of Vargus and Amaya? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 17 minutes ago, oldsox said: Yep. LA was not going to waste a roster spot on him, so let's give him to the White Sox. So, when does Getz pull the plug on him? Are they gonna play him for 2-3 months of next season? That'll be fun to watch. A left side infield of Vargus and Amaya? Try 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Try 2-3 years. If he hits .150 and is out of options, he will get DFA after 3 months. If he can hit .220, maybe they stick with him a few years. Such an unbelievably bad trade. Jeral Perez better be a 7-time all star. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Tuesday at 09:39 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:39 AM On 9/30/2024 at 7:20 AM, Timmy U said: If he hits .150 and is out of options, he will get DFA after 3 months. If he can hit .220, maybe they stick with him a few years. Such an unbelievably bad trade. Jeral Perez better be a 7-time all star. Yordan Alvarez isn’t even a 7 time All Star and he’s the best young hitter the Dodgers traded away… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted Tuesday at 10:26 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:26 AM Ramos isn't lighting the league on fire but between him and Vargus I would rather have Ramos getting the ab's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted Tuesday at 11:32 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:32 AM I admittedly haven’t watched a lot of Sox baseball since the deadline, but two things stand out to me regarding Vargas. First, he is a highly disciplined hitter who isn’t going to chase much and will draw lots of walks. And that is valuable given the makeup of the rest of the team. Unfortunately, he also looks like a low quality hitter when he does make contact. Making I’m missing something, but I haven’t seen him square up all that much and when he does it feels like his power is lacking for any sort of corner-type position. For a dude who was once heralded for having a 65 grade hit tool and 50 grade power, I certainly expected to see more out of him than I have so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Tuesday at 12:21 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:21 PM The Sox tried to fix the Vargas, and ended up with a box of extra parts and bolts. Oh well, maybe next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted Tuesday at 01:58 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:58 PM 4 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Yordan Alvarez isn’t even a 7 time All Star and he’s the best young hitter the Dodgers traded away… You don’t really go in for comedic hyperbole, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Tuesday at 02:29 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:29 PM (edited) 33 minutes ago, Timmy U said: You don’t really go in for comedic hyperbole, do you? https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/218260/ Fine, even though Sweeney has been traded twice…at least the Tigers now have a legit SS who can hit around 650 and hold his own. https://www.baseballamerica.com/players/19832-thayron-liranzo/ And #12 LAD prospect, #88 MiLB. 1.031 ops at West Michigan, MW League. For Flaherty, who wasn’t even as good as Fedde but had the established track record. Tigers just did a much better scouting job. Edited Tuesday at 02:32 PM by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Tuesday at 05:27 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:27 PM The pro Vargas comments even outdo paid shills. The organization is now worse from that trade. Watching him play is worse than what you see in the Cactus League. I don't know what it is but GMs seem to have this bad habit of doing something at the trade deadline just to do something. Of course there are your usual do nothing suspects. I just see this organization just getting worse. Schultz will be the next Crochet for kicking the can down the road. Does this trade deadline surpass the Burger trade? Maybe so. A real GM would've lost their job. An expansion could not have done worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Tuesday at 05:34 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 05:34 PM Sure he sucks, but he takes a lot of pitches to suck is one heckuva flex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted Tuesday at 06:07 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:07 PM He had over a 1.000 OPS in 190 PA in AAA and 108 OPs+ with Dodgers in 80 PA this year. He can’t really be this bad. I mean he did look like complete dogshit, but just looking at his past production pre-Sox it doesn’t make sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted Tuesday at 06:25 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:25 PM 18 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: He had over a 1.000 OPS in 190 PA in AAA and 108 OPs+ with Dodgers in 80 PA this year. He can’t really be this bad. I mean he did look like complete dogshit, but just looking at his past production pre-Sox it doesn’t make sense Yeah I'm not completely writing him off yet. If he is this bad halfway through next year then yeah....that's probably it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted Tuesday at 06:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:40 PM 33 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: He had over a 1.000 OPS in 190 PA in AAA and 108 OPs+ with Dodgers in 80 PA this year. He can’t really be this bad. I mean he did look like complete dogshit, but just looking at his past production pre-Sox it doesn’t make sense Perhaps he wasn’t that bad, but consider that he may always be this bad with the Sox because of the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted Tuesday at 07:27 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:27 PM 1 hour ago, 46DidIt said: He had over a 1.000 OPS in 190 PA in AAA and 108 OPs+ with Dodgers in 80 PA this year. He can’t really be this bad. I mean he did look like complete dogshit, but just looking at his past production pre-Sox it doesn’t make sense He hit .201 overall with the Dodgers. In almost 500 plate appearances now, he's hitting .175. I think he is better than what he hit after he was traded, but no where near the middle of the order bat Getz was projecting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Tuesday at 11:11 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:11 PM 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said: He hit .201 overall with the Dodgers. In almost 500 plate appearances now, he's hitting .175. I think he is better than what he hit after he was traded, but no where near the middle of the order bat Getz was projecting. Yet people want to hold on to minor league numbers as if they are legit. No shortage of "superstar ' minor league players. If the Dodgers couldn't fix him the chances of the Sox fixing him.........are........ Let's not over look catching a baseball doesn't seem to be his strength either. I feel like they have another Josh Fields and ignore he can't play baseball I get it if he came from an organization with poor development but so far the Sox seem to stand out in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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