oldsox Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 On 9/11/2024 at 6:22 PM, fathom said: Of course…anything over 93-94 just blows him away. He will be out of baseball in a few years. I don't want to pile on the guy, but you're right; he is way late on fastballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 minutes ago, oldsox said: I don't want to pile on the guy, but you're right; he is way late on fastballs. It’s to the point that it’s funny. Like a Bugs Bunny cartoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 57 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Why? What will the White Sox be changing that the Dodgers couldn't or wouldn't change? What is wrong with him now? He's now developing under the tutelage of Christopher Getz. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 5 minutes ago, Quin said: He's now developing under the tutelage of Christopher Getz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Get out of here with your dirty numbers. My vibe check tells me he's a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Quin said: Get out of here with your dirty numbers. My vibe check tells me he's a star. I assume that means you are going to fire your vibe check in about a week, to follow along with why Getz acquired Vargas and what he did afterwards. RIP Mike Tosar. Edited September 13 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 13 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don't think they missed anything. I think we're gonna see a very different player come spring training. Who are we trading him to? 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 My development plan for Vargas involves replacing him with Ramos. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 18 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don't think they missed anything. I think we're gonna see a very different player come spring training. Getz’s entire offseason was a whiff outside of Fedde and DeJong. His other in-season trade for Fletcher was a whiff. But you have faith in Vargas, even though he now has a full season of at bats to his career in which he is is one of the worst hitters in recent memory? Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 At the very least, can we STOP putting Vargas at 3B over Ramos? He isn't a 3B, he isn't....he isn't. Stop forcing square pegs into round holes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Capn12 said: At the very least, can we STOP putting Vargas at 3B over Ramos? He isn't a 3B, he isn't....he isn't. Stop forcing square pegs into round holes. They need this trade to work out so bad, they just make it dumber. Ramos isn't a GG at 3B, but compared to Vargas he is, and definitely could improve. Edited September 13 by Dick Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie4Pres Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 5 minutes ago, Capn12 said: At the very least, can we STOP putting Vargas at 3B over Ramos? He isn't a 3B, he isn't....he isn't. Stop forcing square pegs into round holes. Total fucking incompetence at all levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: They need this trade to work out so bad, they just make it dumber. Ramos isn't a GG at 3B, but compared to Vargas he is. I mean, guy was a terrible 3Ber in the minors, and the Dodgers were smart enough to say 'yeah, no more 3rd.' Yet, here we are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 3 minutes ago, Capn12 said: I mean, guy was a terrible 3Ber in the minors, and the Dodgers were smart enough to say 'yeah, no more 3rd.' Yet, here we are... The other thing is most people with the most information think Montgomery is 3B. So 2 of the Sox top prospects are pretty much 3B. What the f*** are they doing with Vargas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Vargas is a 1B/DH, nothing more. Getz, you traded for the guy, knowing what you had on the roster already. Time to either realize Gavin Sheets has no future here, or continue to do inane things like put Vargas at 3rd. All that does, is continue to prove your bottom rung ineptitude at being a General Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 20 minutes ago, Capn12 said: Vargas is a 1B/DH, nothing more. Getz, you traded for the guy, knowing what you had on the roster already. Time to either realize Gavin Sheets has no future here, or continue to do inane things like put Vargas at 3rd. All that does, is continue to prove your bottom rung ineptitude at being a General Manager. Why does Vargas deserve more at bats next year than Sheets? He is out of options next year and is a worse hitter right now than anyone they have. People thought I was crazy when I said he was the Dodgers version of Lenyn Sosa or Oscar Colas, but here we are. He's gotta be hitting by June of next year or he could be a roster crunch victim. One of the more disastrous trades I can remember and it was obvious from the second it was made. I'd kill to have Connor Norby instead and I'm not even a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegionSox Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Is this inability to hit speed a new thing or is it something recent? I have to imagine he could at some point to be on the top prospect lists in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegionSox Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I have been wanting Ramos up at 3B since spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 10 minutes ago, RegionSox said: Is this inability to hit speed a new thing or is it something recent? I have to imagine he could at some point to be on the top prospect lists in the past. I’m pretty sure it was bad before the trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie4Pres Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Someone needs to tell me why this kid was EVER a highly rated prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 23 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said: Someone needs to tell me why this kid was EVER a highly rated prospect. Cuz he had a good time in the 60 yard dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 6 hours ago, Capn12 said: Vargas is a 1B/DH, nothing more. Getz, you traded for the guy, knowing what you had on the roster already. Time to either realize Gavin Sheets has no future here, or continue to do inane things like put Vargas at 3rd. All that does, is continue to prove your bottom rung ineptitude at being a General Manager. He's a White Sox 1b/DH. Can't field a position. Can't hit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 He made another bad play last night to open the doors for first run against Crochet, although the plate ump had a lot to do with it, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 9 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: He's a White Sox 1b/DH. Can't field a position. Can't hit. Too bad he isn’t also a “power lefty” like Gavin Sheets … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 On 9/12/2024 at 6:41 PM, oldsox said: I don't want to pile on the guy, but you're right; he is way late on fastballs. So we basically gave Fedde away for free. Thanks, Chris 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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