Snopek Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: It is wild how everyone but Chris Getz is the problem with the White Sox. 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Yep. Getz did worse in a single offseason and regular season than any of these guys that are getting fired now. 40 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said: I was thinking exactly this. The biggest problem with the Sox over the last 12 months has been Getz. 39 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It’s amazing how Getz survives. Is every positive move for the org going to be viewed through this lense of “Yeah but Getz is still here”? I get it. He’s unqualified for and bad at his job, but he’s not going anywhere. It is what it is. Meanwhile, basically any change that happens within this rotting, maggot infested org is a good thing. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 5 years too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Is Nick Hostetler still employed by the White Sox? How? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1. She felt she had been made a scapegoat for her boss's incompetence. 2. He has been made a scapegoat for the company's failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 12 minutes ago, Snopek said: Is every positive move for the org going to be viewed through this lense of “Yeah but Getz is still here”? I get it. He’s unqualified for and bad at his job, but he’s not going anywhere. It is what it is. Meanwhile, basically any change that happens within this rotting, maggot infested org is a good thing. And if, somehow, Getz gets on a winning streak, or he's fired, everyone will just word search "Getz" and replace with "Reinsdorf". It's really just bad performance art, at this point. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 7 minutes ago, WestEddy said: And if, somehow, Getz gets on a winning streak, or he's fired, everyone will just word search "Getz" and replace with "Reinsdorf". It's really just bad performance art, at this point. He's 31-109 this season. You don't need to make up stuff to get mad about. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Story on the firing, Sox seem to be placing a lot of faith in the new Dominican facility: https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-part-ways-with-marco-paddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 22 minutes ago, Snopek said: Is every positive move for the org going to be viewed through this lense of “Yeah but Getz is still here”? I get it. He’s unqualified for and bad at his job, but he’s not going anywhere. It is what it is. Meanwhile, basically any change that happens within this rotting, maggot infested org is a good thing. 2 reasons. #1, we Don't actually know Paddy is the problem here. The usual errand boys keep telling us he is, but until someone asks the right questions, we don't know the actual problem. #2, you can fire all of the incompetent underlyings you like, if you just find other incompetent underlings to replace them, nothing is actually going to change 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Maybe.....and crazy thought here...but maybe the entire organization is a rotten apple, at this point? Reinsdorf deserves a million percent more blame than Getz, so I don't even get that remark. Of course we'd all still be laying blame at JR's feet, if Getz were gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 9 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Story on the firing, Sox seem to be placing a lot of faith in the new Dominican facility: https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-part-ways-with-marco-paddy Which isn't even done yet. So no Academy and no leader 4 months before signing day. Boy this is going to be a great January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 8 minutes ago, Capn12 said: Maybe.....and crazy thought here...but maybe the entire organization is a rotten apple, at this point? Reinsdorf deserves a million percent more blame than Getz, so I don't even get that remark. Of course we'd all still be laying blame at JR's feet, if Getz were gone. Reinsdorf didn’t tell Getz and his scouts that Vargas is a quality player 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Getz was promoted because he knows the organization. We think the organization sucks and people need to be fired. Maybe Getz also believes that the organization sucks and is firing people. Cleaning house seems like a good start whether you want him in the position or not. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 18 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He's 31-109 this season. You don't need to make up stuff to get mad about. I got no problem with people liking Getz, but I can’t imagine anyone telling Sox fans that they shouldn’t be venting about this organization based on how things are going. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 2 minutes ago, Texsox said: Getz was promoted because he knows the organization. We think the organization sucks and people need to be fired. Maybe Getz also believes that the organization sucks and is firing people. Cleaning house seems like a good start whether you want him in the position or not. Keeping Chris Getz is like remodeling your condemned house, but not fixing the leaky pipes and Moldy floors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, fathom said: I got no problem with people liking Getz, but I can’t imagine anyone telling Sox fans that they shouldn’t be venting about this organization based on how things are going. Glad our Baghdad Bob Squad is here to tell us everything is fine and we are actually the problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Keeping Chris Getz is like remodeling your condemned house, but not fixing the leaky pipes and Moldy floors. I look at it more like not remodeling because you can't decide to start with the plumber and the pipes or the carpenter and the floors. Start at the top, start at the bottom, but start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 9 minutes ago, Texsox said: Getz was promoted because he knows the organization. We think the organization sucks and people need to be fired. Maybe Getz also believes that the organization sucks and is firing people. Cleaning house seems like a good start whether you want him in the position or not. It’s a good start, but if he wasn’t part of the problem and isn’t now, he has a no show job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 You can win with Jerry's financial limitations if you do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Snopek said: Is every positive move for the org going to be viewed through this lense of “Yeah but Getz is still here”? I get it. He’s unqualified for and bad at his job, but he’s not going anywhere. It is what it is. Meanwhile, basically any change that happens within this rotting, maggot infested org is a good thing. He's led a team to the worst season in baseball history, sans the Cleveland Spiders, who were essentially a AAA team before that existed. He, like everyone from the old front office, needs to be exorcised before they can move forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 36 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It’s a good start, but if he wasn’t part of the problem and isn’t now, he has a no show job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 11 minutes ago, Quin said: He's led a team to the worst season in baseball history, sans the Cleveland Spiders, who were essentially a AAA team before that existed. He, like everyone from the old front office, needs to be exorcised before they can move forward. And the next guy will deserve to be fired after next season. And probably the guy after should be a one year hire as well. Hopefully those guys will have helped the 2027 guy to keep his job for a few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I’m pretty sure Getz would’ve canned Paddy last year if he weren’t under contract. Also, this won’t really affect January 15, 2025 very much. These agreements have been in place for awhile. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 4 minutes ago, Texsox said: And the next guy will deserve to be fired after next season. And probably the guy after should be a one year hire as well. Hopefully those guys will have helped the 2027 guy to keep his job for a few years. If the next guy played a crucial role in the KW/Hahn era and loses ~120 games, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Its like folks don't grasp just how HISTORICALLY BAD this team and this season is. There should be no remaining front office members, when you do something THIS badly. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 10 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I’m pretty sure Getz would’ve canned Paddy last year if he weren’t under contract. Also, this won’t really affect January 15, 2025 very much. These agreements have been in place for awhile. The GM doesn't have the authority to choose the people who work beneath him, and this is supposed to make White Sox fans feel confident in their GM. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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