T R U Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Crochet has been terrible since August. Either the Sox really are the most incompetent franchise in baseball botching his management, or possibly worse letting Crochet dictate how he’s used. Can we shut this guy down already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Crochet is now at 133 innings, which no one thought he would really reach without struggling/dead arm. The Sox seem determined to get him to 150+ innings, even though his ERA will likely be in the 4’s and they will have hurt his trade value for the offseason. This team could f*** up a wet dream. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 31 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Crochet is now at 133 innings, which no one thought he would really reach without struggling/dead arm. The Sox seem determined to get him to 150+ innings, even though his ERA will likely be in the 4’s and they will have hurt his trade value for the offseason. This team could f*** up a wet dream. I really don't think ERA will hurt his trade value. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 I swear all the damage done against him this year has been on cutters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 9 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: I really don't think ERA will hurt his trade value. Modern front offices won't care because they'll use data, advanced metrics, etc. Since the Sox are the ones selling him, we basically just remove the Rockies from the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 14 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: I really don't think ERA will hurt his trade value. It won’t, the concern is how his body responds to throwing this many innings with no build up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Are they deliberately putting every player in the lineup fans don't want to see at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Maybe Vaughn can get to a 700 ops so we have one in that category...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Crochet is now at 133 innings, which no one thought he would really reach without struggling/dead arm. The Sox seem determined to get him to 150+ innings, even though his ERA will likely be in the 4’s and they will have hurt his trade value for the offseason. This team could f*** up a wet dream. It's already damaged. Getz is the one doing the trading . Trade is a bad word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Academic at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 3 minutes ago, Capn12 said: Academic at this point You shut your whore mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 1 hour ago, T R U said: Crochet has been terrible since August. Either the Sox really are the most incompetent franchise in baseball botching his management, or possibly worse letting Crochet dictate how he’s used. Can we shut this guy down already? Never understood this. It must be a modern era thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 45 minutes ago, T R U said: It won’t, the concern is how his body responds to throwing this many innings with no build up. Teams probably already know this but the Sox are making it obvious that he won’t be good for 150+ innings next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Teams probably already know this but the Sox are making it obvious that he won’t be good for 150+ innings next year. How? Shouldn’t the idea be he could throw even more next year? More arm strength and whatnot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 2 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: How? Shouldn’t the idea be he could throw even more next year? More arm strength and whatnot. His last 30 innings pitched have been awful. He basically hit the wall at around 100 innings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 12 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Never understood this. It must be a modern era thing. What’s not to understand? He’s never thrown innings like this, not even close. It’s about managing your multi million dollar asset. There’s no reason to risk any further injury in a season that is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 4 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: How? Shouldn’t the idea be he could throw even more next year? More arm strength and whatnot. Typically yes, for pitchers that have built up to it over a few seasons. There’s no telling how Crochet responds next season, this was a really unique situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 (edited) Fletcher and Vargas back-to-back in your lineup. Talk about a dead zone. Hilarious that Romy González, whom Getz DFA’ed, would be our best hitter by far with a .770 OPS. Great transactions by Getz! What a loser of a GM… Edited September 8 by WhiteSox2023 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Norby is so much better than Vargas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Norby is so much better than Vargas The Marlins return for Puk is so much better than what the Sox got for Kopech too. They were big winners of the trade deadline. Meanwhile, Getz was robbed blind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 15 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Fletcher and Vargas back-to-back in your lineup. Talk about a dead zone. Hilarious that Romy González, whom Getz DFA’ed, would be our best hitter by far with a .770 OPS. Great transactions by Getz! What a loser of a GM… But then we'd have missed out on Nicky Lopez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 35 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Never understood this. It must be a modern era thing. The crux of it revolves around trading him, about which we know your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 2 minutes ago, Quin said: But then we'd have missed out on Nicky Lopez $4.3 million for Little Nicky. $740K for Romy. I can’t wait to see what dumpster diving Getz does next offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WestEddy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 25 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Fletcher and Vargas back-to-back in your lineup. Talk about a dead zone. Hilarious that Romy González, whom Getz DFA’ed, would be our best hitter by far with a .770 OPS. Great transactions by Getz! What a loser of a GM… It's funny that you think Romy Gonzalez would have a .770 OPS with the White Sox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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