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55 minutes ago, bmags said:

I think your one example actually has a much better hit rate than most football guys. The browns have been in the playoffs in 2 of the last 4 seasons after an 18 year drought. He has been a part of a pretty respected front office that included kwesi adofo mensah who they recruited.

"Who seems good" would be an underrated improvement for the bears. Who seems good applied to Lovie. Would have applied to Arians (would have actually gotten us Reid, he seemed pretty good). It probably did apply to Wanny, Fox, and Nagy. But it would have avoided Flus, would have avoided Jauron. That's about as good a hit rate as any football guy.

Bears should try it imo.

He joined the Browns in January of 2016. 

During that time, the Browns have gone 54-87, and he was credited with helping orchestrate maybe the worst trade in recent sports history, sending 3 first rounders, a third and two 4ths for Deshawn Watson, and put the cherry on top by giving him FULLY guaranteed contract of 5 years/$230 million, while the sexual assault allegations were already on full display. 

They’re also 3-8 this year. So I’m not really throwing any roses at Paul Depodesta or calling that a “hit” for a non-football guy. 

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By the Numbers. From a Sun-Times story today:

"In fact, in 13-plus seasons of George McCaskey leadership, the Bears’ 93-130 record is 26th in the NFL in that span. Their two playoff berths are tied for 28th. Their single playoff berth with a winning record (12-4 in 2018) is 31st. Their zero playoff wins are tied for last.

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3 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

By the Numbers. From a Sun-Times story today:

"In fact, in 13-plus seasons of George McCaskey leadership, the Bears’ 93-130 record is 26th in the NFL in that span. Their two playoff berths are tied for 28th. Their single playoff berth with a winning record (12-4 in 2018) is 31st. Their zero playoff wins are tied for last.

The Bears have been bad?  Since when?  Oh right.

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3 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Interesting speculation. Personally I'd make the move if I was the Bears:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2024/12/03/could-bears-trade-for-49ers-coach-kyle-shanahan

My view is - Bears should be doing all their homework now and have a short and tight list to tackle right when season ends. Keep your short list to 4-5 names and move quick in interview process and than give a good contract to your top guy. 
 

On my list of must interviews are:

1) Mike Vrabel - My personal favorite. If Bears don’t interview him - it means this is same ole Bears cause this is the exact type of coach they would not touch in the past. If Bears interview - at least it’s a good sign (even if they go another direction). But this guy is no nonsense, smart and has been successful with mediocre qbs. I also think he fits the style that works in a cold weather city and has shown a knack for finding good offensive coordinators (see Arthur Smith). 
 

2)  Ben Johnson - My guess is this is who Bears will hire. He runs a really good offense and has done it for 3 years. I don’t know how dynamic a leader he is - but long term on field results with Goff have been excellent (yes great talent too - but they scheme guys open as well). 
 

3) Thomas Brown - He is in very tough spot - but some guys just have a special quality and he might just be that type of guy. Press conferences don’t mean anything but he clearly has juice on the podium and evidently in the locker room.  
 

4) Kliff Kingsbury - I’m skeptical here because the Arizona gig went south but he did have a lot of early success and guys learn. He’s worked with Caleb and you can’t argue what is happening in Washington with Jayden. 
 

5) Wildcard Candidate: Back channel to see if you can get Shanny or assess a Mike McDaniel / Browns HC. Do homework on Gruden as well - but I am Leary here given how long he was away from coaching and the circumstances around his removal - but if you think he is the best - go get him. Knows how to surround himself with great minds. Heck, his brother Jay had one of the all time great offensive staffs around him. 

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