southsider2k5 Posted Sunday at 11:55 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:55 PM 20 minutes ago, Quin said: 2 slots. From the handful of mocks I've seen, Banks should be there. Oh good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM 16 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I am obviously very high on Ben Johnson and would prefer an offensive minded HC, but Vrabel would be an acceptable fall back option. If we don’t end up with either of them then that’s a clear fail in my mind. I personally don’t see how Jacksonville would be more attractive than Chicago, but the Bears always find a way to f*** this s%*# up. Rumor was Johnson didn't want Poles around, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Monday at 12:13 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:13 AM 32 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I am obviously very high on Ben Johnson and would prefer an offensive minded HC, but Vrabel would be an acceptable fall back option. If we don’t end up with either of them then that’s a clear fail in my mind. I personally don’t see how Jacksonville would be more attractive than Chicago, but the Bears always find a way to f*** this s%*# up. If he truly is interested in the job Pete Carroll is not a bad option at all either and I’d have zero complaints if somehow he wound up as the Bears coach. He’s just a flat out good coach and we all know it. If they somehow wind up with none of these options, that’s the moment to worry in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted Monday at 12:25 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:25 AM Go Broncos....on to Buffalo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted Monday at 12:30 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:30 AM So the win today cost the Bears 3 spots. I guess it's really not a huge difference between 7 and 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted Monday at 01:28 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:28 AM 59 minutes ago, chw42 said: So the win today cost the Bears 3 spots. I guess it's really not a huge difference between 7 and 10. It was 1, then 2, and now 3 in the last couple of pages of this thread. Is it really 3? Because that is actually a significant drop, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted Monday at 01:36 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:36 AM 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: If he truly is interested in the job Pete Carroll is not a bad option at all either and I’d have zero complaints if somehow he wound up as the Bears coach. He’s just a flat out good coach and we all know it. If they somehow wind up with none of these options, that’s the moment to worry in my eyes. Yeah, Pete works too. I didn’t realize he was highly interested in coaching again at his age, but he’d be right below Vrabel for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Monday at 01:52 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:52 AM 19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Yeah, Pete works too. I didn’t realize he was highly interested in coaching again at his age, but he’d be right below Vrabel for me. Check back a few pages, right around Christmas his people spoke to someone at ESPN and placed an article saying he was interested in coaching the Bears. Yeah the age thing is an issue at least to figure out. I have no idea what his motivation is right now or why he's thinking this, but a Super Bowl winning coach saying "I want to come out of retirement and coach this team, put an article out saying that" at least gets my attention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted Monday at 02:09 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:09 AM 44 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said: It was 1, then 2, and now 3 in the last couple of pages of this thread. Is it really 3? Because that is actually a significant drop, in my opinion. It was two when I first looked, then the Jets won, so the Bears would have picked in front of them had they lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Monday at 02:37 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:37 AM Bears would have picked 8th but beating the Packers pushed them down to the dreaded #10 Sox spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Monday at 02:53 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:53 AM 2 hours ago, chw42 said: So the win today cost the Bears 3 spots. I guess it's really not a huge difference between 7 and 10. Depends wholey on who picks OL in front of them. If the top 2 are gone, it's a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted Monday at 06:40 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:40 AM 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Depends wholey on who picks OL in front of them. If the top 2 are gone, it's a disaster. There's a few offensive tackles besides Banks and Campbell who have mid first round draft grades. I don't know about a disaster, but if they got 7, you can argue they could have gotten someone like Abdul Carter if the slides a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Monday at 06:50 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:50 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Depends wholey on who picks OL in front of them. If the top 2 are gone, it's a disaster. It will likely cost the Bears. Early mocks have the top two OL going at #9 and #10. My guess is that both guys will move up before they move down. As always, a meaningless win late in the season is pretty much never worth what you lose out on, even against the Packers. And the Bears are definitely the team that needs the best LT available, period. https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft Edited Monday at 06:56 AM by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Monday at 11:32 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:32 AM Sam Darnold picked a bad game to turn back into Sam Darnold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted Monday at 01:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:42 PM 37 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: If the Bears go with a first time, defensive oriented HC I may just have to call it a wrap on my fandom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted Monday at 01:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:55 PM 14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: If the Bears go with a first time, defensive oriented HC I may just have to call it a wrap on my fandom. Vance Joseph was actually a failed HC with the Broncos in 2017-2018, so even better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted Monday at 02:03 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:03 PM Have to say…I’m not sure firing the coach in season did much (maybe got us a better pick). George may not do it again. Best news of day? Jags keeping baalke. No hot coach will sign up for that after how often he’s backstabbed the coaches under him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted Monday at 02:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:04 PM 24 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: If the Bears go with a first time, defensive oriented HC I may just have to call it a wrap on my fandom. I think it's worth remembering that amidst the Johnson/Vrabel/Carroll excitement, they do have to interview two minority candidates to satisfy the Rooney Rule. While I'm still hoping for Johnson, I hope those candidates still get legit interviews and aren't just checking a box. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted Monday at 02:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:05 PM 15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: If the Bears go with a first time, defensive oriented HC I may just have to call it a wrap on my fandom. Vance Joseph served as HC for the Broncos previously. He was fired not long into his tenure and was replaced by Vic Fangio (Joseph is a rah-rah motivational players coach, when that didn't work they went to the other extreme with the HC as old school Woody Hayes style dictator leadership style with Fangio, that didn't work either and ofcourse Hackett was an embarrassment when they swung back in the other direction). Joseph then returned to Denver as DC under Sean Payton and he is doing well in that role for us. It has turned out not to be awkward as people thought bringing back the former HC of the club to serve as DC for the team under a later HC. He has done well as DC. He's a good DC that really didn't do well at all as HC. I dont know if its a Peter Principle issue or he just wasn't ready. If you guys hire him, it's basically to be Caleb Williams buddy. He's a players coach. Sometimes that works, Pete Carroll is a players coach too but Carroll is an effective HC and is a good CEO. I dont think VJ is but who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted Monday at 02:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:11 PM 17 minutes ago, Snopek said: Vance Joseph was actually a failed HC with the Broncos in 2017-2018, so even better. I did not recall him being a HC, but the point still applies. If you go defensive minded HC, it’s got to be proven successful one like Vrabel or Carroll and they need to have a clear plan in place for OC / Caleb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted Monday at 02:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:14 PM Bears are dumb, but I'm not going to sweat the names coming out on who they are interviewing quite yet. I'll worry more when the "finalists" come out and that list sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted Monday at 02:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:22 PM 11 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Vance Joseph served as HC for the Broncos previously. He was fired not long into his tenure and was replaced by Vic Fangio (Joseph is a rah-rah motivational players coach, when that didn't work they went to the other extreme with the HC as old school Woody Hayes style dictator leadership style with Fangio, that didn't work either and ofcourse Hackett was an embarrassment when they swung back in the other direction). Joseph then returned to Denver as DC under Sean Payton and he is doing well in that role for us. It has turned out not to be awkward as people thought bringing back the former HC of the club to serve as DC for the team under a later HC. He has done well as DC. He's a good DC that really didn't do well at all as HC. I dont know if its a Peter Principle issue or he just wasn't ready. If you guys hire him, it's basically to be Caleb Williams buddy. He's a players coach. Sometimes that works, Pete Carroll is a players coach too but Carroll is an effective HC and is a good CEO. I dont think VJ is but who knows. Maybe it was bad timing or he wasn’t ready yet, but hiring a guy like this is not worth the risk for us. Either it’s got to be a swing for the fences, high ceiling offensive mind like Ben Johnson or a proven leader like Vrabel or Carroll. No franchise has been the victim of bad HC’ing as much as we have since Lovie’s exit. And I think we could be in the playoff mix as soon as next year if we hire the right guy…but we got to stop hiring C & D tier candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted Monday at 02:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:25 PM You know I don’t know if board will kill me but I wouldn’t mind a Pete Carroll Brian schottenheimer reunion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted Monday at 02:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:29 PM 11 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Bears are dumb, but I'm not going to sweat the names coming out on who they are interviewing quite yet. I'll worry more when the "finalists" come out and that list sucks. This is the right way to approach it, but I still can’t comprehend how they hired Eberflus in the first place and the real concern is does Poles want to hire a guy who might require him ceding some power. We know he’s not happy about Warren taking on some control and there have already been some rumors out there about him not being interested in Johnson due to self preservation. I want to be an optimist here because Caleb, the Chicago market, a bunch of picks, and a boatload of cap space should place us head and shoulders above the Jaguars, Jets, & Saints. But for whatever reason, the Bears never want to make the obvious hire and that usually costs us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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