WhiteSox2023 Posted Monday at 04:21 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:21 AM 34 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Hard watching Chargers and not sit here going god they had Harbaugh for the taking. They may lose to Chiefs but they are so tough, physical and well coached in what was supposed to be a retooling year for the Chargers. Is there a Joe Alt in this years draft? Will Campbell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted Monday at 02:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:14 PM The 2024 Bears are like the 2024 White Sox: Not watchable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted Monday at 02:27 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:27 PM The Carolina trade is looking less and less like the Herschel Walker trade as each game goes by. You can add Tyle Scott as another high picked that was wasted. Same as Velus. Scott can't even make the active roster. After they go 4-13 will Poles be called out or no? Harbaugh is the reversal of TLR. Chicago can't get anything right. Poles got Hahn'd there. Warren was a nice hire on paper and seems to like to hire non football related people but on the football side what does he know about anything? Why was he let go by the B1G? This is the epitome of a rudderless ship. Eberflus (who Poles and Warren backed) is this year's fall guy, Poles will be next year's fall guy, the HC Poles hires will be the following year's falle guy and then 7 or 8 years from now Warren will take a job outside of football and Trace Armstrong will take over. I have traded in my fandom to the Pittsburgh Steelers and really don't care much about baseball outside of the White Sox but will root for the Brewers and Cardinals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Monday at 02:48 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:48 PM 11 hours ago, chw42 said: Not addressing the line with the amount of cap space they had was idiotic. Kevin Zeitler was out there for $6 million and Poles gave that money to Gerald Everett instead. How you draft a "generational" QB, yet leave him with that toilet bowl of an offensive line is almost negligence. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted Monday at 04:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:04 PM 53 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: How you draft a "generational" QB, yet leave him with that toilet bowl of an offensive line is almost negligence. Again I cannot reiterate enough how Poles and Warren are somehow getting a free pass on screwing this up. George the ticket salesman is a complete buffoon stuck in the 1940's. Williams will be on his third head coach and amazingly fourth OC when next season kicks off. The ineptitude has reached new lows up there with Poles and Warren and that is really saying something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted Monday at 04:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:04 PM 1 hour ago, Highland said: The 2024 Bears are like the 2024 White Sox: Not watchable. I don’t know. I find them interesting to watch in a train wreck sort of way. The sox were unwatchable because they played a very boring brand of bad baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Monday at 04:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:20 PM 17 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Again I cannot reiterate enough how Poles and Warren are somehow getting a free pass on screwing this up. George the ticket salesman is a complete buffoon stuck in the 1940's. Williams will be on his third head coach and amazingly fourth OC when next season kicks off. The ineptitude has reached new lows up there with Poles and Warren and that is really saying something. Are you even listening to radio and media at all? Neither of them are getting a free pass, at all. Poles seat is hot, both nationally and locally, and the target has definitely fallen on Warren now that he has failed to get his one job done. He’ll just look at this thread and how we are evaluating those two? Honestly don’t know how you think they are skating by, not even a little bit from my view. If they crash out this season and lose out, which is very possible, I could definitely see Poles losing his job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted Monday at 07:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:11 PM 2 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Are you even listening to radio and media at all? Neither of them are getting a free pass, at all. Poles seat is hot, both nationally and locally, and the target has definitely fallen on Warren now that he has failed to get his one job done. He’ll just look at this thread and how we are evaluating those two? Honestly don’t know how you think they are skating by, not even a little bit from my view. If they crash out this season and lose out, which is very possible, I could definitely see Poles losing his job The media I heard last week was about Thomas Brown getting an opportunity and what he would need to do to be the next head coach. Maybe I was expecting more heat or not paying attention which is good then and I am sadly happy to be wrong as I wished they all worked out. I will agree that the narrative seems to be changing but I viewed the season as lost after the Patriots game and yesterday looks like this team has a real culture problem that goes much further than Eberflus and Waldron so you are right. I thought Poles was certainly safe prior to yesterday. It took Dan McNeil of all people to begin the narrative of Warren v Harbaugh and what a huge miss that was. It will be a minor miracle for them to win 5 games this year. If they are going to hamstring their hirings to fit what George and Virginia want and now add Warren's ego, I am not certain anything is changing any time soon. If Poles was on board with Eberflus when he was hired and doubled down earlier this year with no pushback from Warren, they should both be gone. The next question are they prepared to pay for a legitimate coach while paying Eberflus $5M a year for the next 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Monday at 07:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:15 PM 5 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: The media I heard last week was about Thomas Brown getting an opportunity and what he would need to do to be the next head coach. Maybe I was expecting more heat or not paying attention which is good then and I am sadly happy to be wrong as I wished they all worked out. I will agree that the narrative seems to be changing but I viewed the season as lost after the Patriots game and yesterday looks like this team has a real culture problem that goes much further than Eberflus and Waldron so you are right. I thought Poles was certainly safe prior to yesterday. It took Dan McNeil of all people to begin the narrative of Warren v Harbaugh and what a huge miss that was. It will be a minor miracle for them to win 5 games this year. If they are going to hamstring their hirings to fit what George and Virginia want and now add Warren's ego, I am not certain anything is changing any time soon. If Poles was on board with Eberflus when he was hired and doubled down earlier this year with no pushback from Warren, they should both be gone. The next question are they prepared to pay for a legitimate coach while paying Eberflus $5M a year for the next 2 years. Dan McNeil was not the first to call out the Harbaugh Warren BS. The score has been talking about it all year, it just got more traction because Flus was fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Monday at 07:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:17 PM 6 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: The media I heard last week was about Thomas Brown getting an opportunity and what he would need to do to be the next head coach. Maybe I was expecting more heat or not paying attention which is good then and I am sadly happy to be wrong as I wished they all worked out. I will agree that the narrative seems to be changing but I viewed the season as lost after the Patriots game and yesterday looks like this team has a real culture problem that goes much further than Eberflus and Waldron so you are right. I thought Poles was certainly safe prior to yesterday. It took Dan McNeil of all people to begin the narrative of Warren v Harbaugh and what a huge miss that was. It will be a minor miracle for them to win 5 games this year. If they are going to hamstring their hirings to fit what George and Virginia want and now add Warren's ego, I am not certain anything is changing any time soon. If Poles was on board with Eberflus when he was hired and doubled down earlier this year with no pushback from Warren, they should both be gone. The next question are they prepared to pay for a legitimate coach while paying Eberflus $5M a year for the next 2 years. Might as well lose out and hope for a chance at Will Campbell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted Monday at 07:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:53 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: How you draft a "generational" QB, yet leave him with that toilet bowl of an offensive line is almost negligence. The 49ers were able to sack Caleb a few times with only rushing 3 defenders, and it wasn't Caleb holding on to the ball too long either, no one was open and the defenders were on CW really quickly. Pathetic OL. Williams does look like the real thing though, doesn't turn the ball over and has looked good overall even with the huge disadvantage of being a rookie QB in a dysfunctional NFL franchise. Kid deserves so much more than this s%*# show. Edited Monday at 07:54 PM by MexSoxFan#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Monday at 08:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:10 PM 19 minutes ago, MexSoxFan#1 said: The 49ers were able to sack Caleb a few times with only rushing 3 defenders, and it wasn't Caleb holding on to the ball too long either, no one was open and the defenders were on CW really quickly. Pathetic OL. Williams does look like the real thing though, doesn't turn the ball over and has looked good overall even with the huge disadvantage of being a rookie QB in a dysfunctional NFL franchise. Kid deserves so much more than this s%*# show. One of those sacks, the linebacker walked Jones right into Caleb’s lap without even slowing down. Ridiculous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted Tuesday at 02:04 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:04 AM Silvy was on the radio today saying he’s heard that Poles was told when he was hired he would be reporting straight to ownership, and he wasn’t happy when Warren was brought in. He went on to say while he hasn’t heard anything about his future, he wouldn’t be surprised after the season, if they end with 4 wins, there is a “mutual” parting of ways. And honestly, the more you think about it, I don’t know how it makes sense for Poles to come back. You’re going to have a new HC/Staff, and we’ll be on Year 4 of Poles, and his record is…not impressive. If they suck again next season, there is almost no way you can bring him back..so now Poles hired that new coach, now Poles is gone, new GM comes in and doesn’t have his coach or his roster…and the cycle of suck continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted Tuesday at 02:06 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:06 AM The Bears would be terrible when they have the most talented quarterback in their history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted Tuesday at 02:33 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:33 AM 30 minutes ago, Tony said: Silvy was on the radio today saying he’s heard that Poles was told when he was hired he would be reporting straight to ownership, and he wasn’t happy when Warren was brought in. He went on to say while he hasn’t heard anything about his future, he wouldn’t be surprised after the season, if they end with 4 wins, there is a “mutual” parting of ways. And honestly, the more you think about it, I don’t know how it makes sense for Poles to come back. You’re going to have a new HC/Staff, and we’ll be on Year 4 of Poles, and his record is…not impressive. If they suck again next season, there is almost no way you can bring him back..so now Poles hired that new coach, now Poles is gone, new GM comes in and doesn’t have his coach or his roster…and the cycle of suck continues. If they replace Poles, it will take a bit for Warren and the "search" committee to hire his replacement. After Bill Polian tells them who to hire we will be left with the left overs. Rinse and Repeat, the bears bear everytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted Tuesday at 02:38 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:38 AM 6 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: If they replace Poles, it will take a bit for Warren and the "search" committee to hire his replacement. After Bill Polian tells them who to hire we will be left with the left overs. Rinse and Repeat, the bears bear everytime. That’s absolutely a concern, but there really isn’t a “good” option. It’s very “Bears” anyway they do it. But if they have any hope with Caleb at QB, they need to get the right coach/GM in the building ASAP. If they don’t think it’s Poles, then cut bait now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted Tuesday at 02:40 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:40 AM 9 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: If they replace Poles, it will take a bit for Warren and the "search" committee to hire his replacement. After Bill Polian tells them who to hire we will be left with the left overs. Rinse and Repeat, the bears bear everytime. I think it'd be Ian Cunningham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted Tuesday at 02:59 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:59 AM Homer Simpson is on an MVP pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Tuesday at 03:38 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:38 AM 8 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Dan McNeil was not the first to call out the Harbaugh Warren BS. The score has been talking about it all year, it just got more traction because Flus was fired Mully and Mannelly have been asking over and over how you can draft a generational franchise QB and not surround him with a good OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted Tuesday at 05:24 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:24 AM 15 hours ago, Highland said: The 2024 Bears are like the 2024 White Sox: Not watchable. So much must watch viewing that I went to the library and taped the game. Erased without watching, of course. At least I'm smarter now than if I'd been at home glued to the TV. I'm tempted to buy you all a steak dinner at Gibson's if they win another game. But give them a few billion to erect a monstrosity on our lakefront and all will be well. Just like it was when they ruined Arlington Park for the few racing fans left. Build it there, you morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted Tuesday at 03:07 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:07 PM 13 hours ago, Tony said: Silvy was on the radio today saying he’s heard that Poles was told when he was hired he would be reporting straight to ownership, and he wasn’t happy when Warren was brought in. He went on to say while he hasn’t heard anything about his future, he wouldn’t be surprised after the season, if they end with 4 wins, there is a “mutual” parting of ways. And honestly, the more you think about it, I don’t know how it makes sense for Poles to come back. You’re going to have a new HC/Staff, and we’ll be on Year 4 of Poles, and his record is…not impressive. If they suck again next season, there is almost no way you can bring him back..so now Poles hired that new coach, now Poles is gone, new GM comes in and doesn’t have his coach or his roster…and the cycle of suck continues. Poles absolutely has to go this offseason. It is the only way to save whatever is left of this so-called Bears rebuild. This team still has so many holes all over the roster and seems years away from competing. Fire the entire coaching staff and front office in the offseason and pray you can hire a miracle worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted Tuesday at 05:41 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:41 PM On 12/9/2024 at 10:20 AM, Kyyle23 said: Are you even listening to radio and media at all? Neither of them are getting a free pass, at all. Poles seat is hot, both nationally and locally, and the target has definitely fallen on Warren now that he has failed to get his one job done. He’ll just look at this thread and how we are evaluating those two? Honestly don’t know how you think they are skating by, not even a little bit from my view. If they crash out this season and lose out, which is very possible, I could definitely see Poles losing his job I guess I was off the reservation recently as there is a serious fire under them all. Maybe I wasn't caring enough and only hearing about how things will now be different. Seems like Poles will be gone after the season. Opens up the opportunity for a HC with personnel input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Tuesday at 05:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:51 PM 10 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: I guess I was off the reservation recently as there is a serious fire under them all. Maybe I wasn't caring enough and only hearing about how things will now be different. Seems like Poles will be gone after the season. Opens up the opportunity for a HC with personnel input. This season absolutely sucks, there is no getting around that. The bears seemingly have their QB which gives them vastly different expectations and marching orders going forward, let’s both hope that the powers that be make the decisions with him in mind and not with “let’s be safe” in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted Tuesday at 05:59 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:59 PM 8 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: This season absolutely sucks, there is no getting around that. The bears seemingly have their QB which gives them vastly different expectations and marching orders going forward, let’s both hope that the powers that be make the decisions with him in mind and not with “let’s be safe” in mind Four names this morning Joe Brady Mike Vrabel Flores Ben Johnson I would think you kick the tires on Bellichek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Tuesday at 06:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:10 PM 14 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Four names this morning Joe Brady Mike Vrabel Flores Ben Johnson I would think you kick the tires on Bellichek Sounds like Belicheck is on his way to UNC with his son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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