24-25 NFL Thread

[Chicago White Sox]

My only issue is if you fire Poles, you then have to go through a GM search before a HC search and I’m not sure the top candidates are going to wait out the Bears with that uncertainty.  I’d rather quickly pounce on Ben Johnson and give Poles one last chance to fix the trenches before making a change.

[southsider2k5]

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

My only issue is if you fire Poles, you then have to go through a GM search before a HC search and I’m not sure the top candidates are going to wait out the Bears with that uncertainty.  I’d rather quickly pounce on Ben Johnson and give Poles one last chance to fix the trenches before making a change.

Hopefully they are doing the GM check already quietly to narrow candidates.

[Kyyle23]

19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

My only issue is if you fire Poles, you then have to go through a GM search before a HC search and I’m not sure the top candidates are going to wait out the Bears with that uncertainty.  I’d rather quickly pounce on Ben Johnson and give Poles one last chance to fix the trenches before making a change.

If they fire poles you have to hope that Warren was doing the GM leg work in the background and the next guy steps in knowing who he wants 

[Tony]

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

My only issue is if you fire Poles, you then have to go through a GM search before a HC search and I’m not sure the top candidates are going to wait out the Bears with that uncertainty.  I’d rather quickly pounce on Ben Johnson and give Poles one last chance to fix the trenches before making a change.

This team is going to win 4 games. With the issues on the OL and DL, even with a new coaching staff, I don’t see a 9-10 win team next year. 
 

That means Poles now has 4 years under his belt as GM, without even coming close to a winning record. You bringing him back for a 5th year? Because if you aren’t…then you shouldn’t let him pick the new coach. Because now the new GM is coming into a coaching situation he inherited…which is what the Bears always do, and it’s worked out so well before..,

[Dick Allen]

23 minutes ago, Tony said:

This team is going to win 4 games. With the issues on the OL and DL, even with a new coaching staff, I don’t see a 9-10 win team next year. 
 

That means Poles now has 4 years under his belt as GM, without even coming close to a winning record. You bringing him back for a 5th year? Because if you aren’t…then you shouldn’t let him pick the new coach. Because now the new GM is coming into a coaching situation he inherited…which is what the Bears always do, and it’s worked out so well before..,

Exactly. Either for some reason you are so impressed with losing football, you must keep him around for the next 3 or 4 years, unless you hire the second coming of Trestman, or you have to fire him. They are 4-12. He has shown he cannot build a team. Now he's blaming training camp.

[Chisoxfn]

2 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

If they fire poles you have to hope that Warren was doing the GM leg work in the background and the next guy steps in knowing who he wants 

This 

[Chisoxfn]

35 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Exactly. Either for some reason you are so impressed with losing football, you must keep him around for the next 3 or 4 years, unless you hire the second coming of Trestman, or you have to fire him. They are 4-12. He has shown he cannot build a team. Now he's blaming training camp.

He is not a good gm, period. 

[WhiteSox2023]

45 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Exactly. Either for some reason you are so impressed with losing football, you must keep him around for the next 3 or 4 years, unless you hire the second coming of Trestman, or you have to fire him. They are 4-12. He has shown he cannot build a team. Now he's blaming training camp.

Thanks for making me find the article.  I would have rather not read this garbage.  🤣

“Ryan Poles attributes slow offensive starts to training camp”

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“I believe it stems back from training camp,” Poles said. “It’s just some of the things that either weren’t addressed, they weren’t detailed enough, whatever that is.”

No, Ryan.  It started when you did nothing to improve a terrible OL for a rookie QB.  Fire this dude already.

Edited 15 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[Dick Allen]

11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Thanks for making me find the article.  I would have rather not read this garbage.  🤣

“Ryan Poles attributes slow offensive starts to training camp”

No, Ryan.  It started when you did nothing to improve a terrible OL for a rookie QB.  Fire this dude already.

How a guy who was an OL doesn't know the key to good teams is in the trenches is beyond me. I guess when youre a GM, you pick up guys like yourself. Getz likes slappy guys who can't play. Poles likes OL who went undrafted.

[WhiteSox2023]

10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

How a guy who was an OL doesn't know the key to good teams is in the trenches is beyond me. I guess when youre a GM, you pick up guys like yourself. Getz likes slappy guys who can't play. Poles likes OL who went undrafted.

Poles mistakenly thought he could acquire a bunch of mediocre to bad OL and get them coached up.  Turn s%*# into gold.  Too bad he also hired an awful coaching staff.

Edited 15 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[Lip Man 1]

Nothing more needs to be said does it:

In fact, in 32 seasons since the unofficial beginning of the McCaskey era — following the firing of George Halas-hired Mike Ditka after the 1992 season — the Bears rank in the bottom 10 in the NFL in nearly every key measurement of success. They are 231-284 (.449), which ranks 23rd; They have nine winning seasons (tied for 27th), seven playoff seasons (tied for 26th). They have four playoff victories (only the Lions, Commanders and expansion Browns have fewer).

If the McCaskey's were selling anything but an addictive product — football — they’d have been out of business long ago with that record of failure. 

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2024/12/27/sell-the-team-mccaskeys-again-wont-give-bears-fans-what-they-want-most

[Milkman delivers]

49 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Nothing more needs to be said does it:

In fact, in 32 seasons since the unofficial beginning of the McCaskey era — following the firing of George Halas-hired Mike Ditka after the 1992 season — the Bears rank in the bottom 10 in the NFL in nearly every key measurement of success. They are 231-284 (.449), which ranks 23rd; They have nine winning seasons (tied for 27th), seven playoff seasons (tied for 26th). They have four playoff victories (only the Lions, Commanders and expansion Browns have fewer).

If the McCaskey's were selling anything but an addictive product — football — they’d have been out of business long ago with that record of failure. 

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2024/12/27/sell-the-team-mccaskeys-again-wont-give-bears-fans-what-they-want-most

Do you have strong feelings one way or the other about the McCaskey family? You seem to be an enigma on that subject.

[Lip Man 1]

4 hours ago, Milkman delivers said:

Do you have strong feelings one way or the other about the McCaskey family? You seem to be an enigma on that subject.

Well played.

What we do know for sure is that as long as that family runs this operation, any success will be in spite of them as opposed to because of them. 

Love the fact that the media both locally and nationally is calling out this franchise and ownership for the idiots that they are. 

[The Beast]

10 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

LT Rasheed Walker, ‘22 7th round pick

LG Elgton Jenkins, ‘19 2nd round pick

C Josh Myers, ‘21 2nd round pick

RG Sean Rhyan, ‘22 3rd round pick

RT Zach Tom, ‘22 4th round pick

9 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

My only issue is if you fire Poles, you then have to go through a GM search before a HC search and I’m not sure the top candidates are going to wait out the Bears with that uncertainty.  I’d rather quickly pounce on Ben Johnson and give Poles one last chance to fix the trenches before making a change.

I was thinking about the timing of a hire, like I think Johnson might not be able to be hired until after Detroit’s run in the postseason. I’d hope Warren is searching for Poles’ replacement by now if he’s going to fire him. I also wonder if coaches like Rivera or Carroll have ties to the GM they’d want to work with.

[Tony]

56 minutes ago, The Beast said:

LT Rasheed Walker, ‘22 7th round pick

LG Elgton Jenkins, ‘19 2nd round pick

C Josh Myers, ‘21 2nd round pick

RG Sean Rhyan, ‘22 3rd round pick

RT Zach Tom, ‘22 4th round pick

I was thinking about the timing of a hire, like I think Johnson might not be able to be hired until after Detroit’s run in the postseason. I’d hope Warren is searching for Poles’ replacement by now if he’s going to fire him. I also wonder if coaches like Rivera or Carroll have ties to the GM they’d want to work with.

They should be able to interview Johnson during the bye week before the SB, if the Lions make it that far