Tony Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 8:09 PM, Chisoxfn said: If you told me they paid Trey Smith 23M a year I'd be absolutely good with these first few picks. I won't pretned to know how good they will be - but right positions in general given depth of the draft. Than find a center prospect and a TE given depth of TE in this draft. You can still sign a free agent center too - such as the Falcons center. Expand You sign Trey Smith, and add Kelvin Banks, you're looking at: LT: Braxton Jones LG: Kelvin Banks C : Coleman Shelton RG: Trey Smith RT: Darnell Wright I think you can possibly get by with Braxton for another year (but not crazy about it) but still need a C. And it's still not a deep line. If the right guys are there, I'd just much rather invest in another tackle or center rather than a luxury item like a 2nd round RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 9:31 PM, Tony said: You sign Trey Smith, and add Kelvin Banks, you're looking at: LT: Braxton Jones LG: Kelvin Banks C : Coleman Shelton RG: Trey Smith RT: Darnell Wright I think you can possibly get by with Braxton for another year (but not crazy about it) but still need a C. And it's still not a deep line. If the right guys are there, I'd just much rather invest in another tackle or center rather than a luxury item like a 2nd round RB. Expand A RB does you no good if you can't block for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 9:39 PM, southsider2k5 said: A RB does you no good if you can't block for him. Expand Believe I already posted it in this thread a few pages back, but I'll say it again because I really thought it was spot on. The RB position should be considered a "gasoline" position. They're an accelerant. The OL and scheme are the wood and matches. Gasoline doesn't start a campfire, but it can turn a simple campfire into an absolute blaze. The Bears are still short a few logs. Go build the campfire first, then go get your gasoline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 There's no way the Bears can give up the picks needed for Garrett, pay him his money, and dramatically improve the offensive line. They're already paying Sweat top pass rusher money. You can't invest 1/5 of your cap on 2 edge rushers. That's just irresponsible given how bad the offense was last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Maaaaaan would he look great on that line tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 9:31 PM, Tony said: You sign Trey Smith, and add Kelvin Banks, you're looking at: LT: Braxton Jones LG: Kelvin Banks C : Coleman Shelton RG: Trey Smith RT: Darnell Wright I think you can possibly get by with Braxton for another year (but not crazy about it) but still need a C. And it's still not a deep line. If the right guys are there, I'd just much rather invest in another tackle or center rather than a luxury item like a 2nd round RB. Expand I’d adding four legit lineman this offseason. Potential long-term LT like Banks at #10, an interior line prospect with one of my 2nd round picks, and two interior lineman who are of the starting caliber in free agency. Ideally, one of those free agents is a legit stud who can actually anchor the line like Smith. That leaves some resource for the D-Line plus depth moves elsewhere. WR in particular is going to need some investment as we don’t really have a #3 at the moment. I know Johnson loves to use his RBs, but I think you can find a cheap alternative there. Would help if Cunningham could land the Jaguars’ GM job and get us an extra 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 12:46 AM, Chicago White Sox said: I’d adding four legit lineman this offseason. Potential long-term LT like Banks at #10, an interior line prospect with one of my 2nd round picks, and two interior lineman who are of the starting caliber in free agency. Ideally, one of those free agents is a legit stud who can actually anchor the line like Smith. That leaves some resource for the D-Line plus depth moves elsewhere. WR in particular is going to need some investment as we don’t really have a #3 at the moment. I know Johnson loves to use his RBs, but I think you can find a cheap alternative there. Would help if Cunningham could land the Jaguars’ GM job and get us an extra 3rd. Expand Seriously, having an extra third could really help, allows them to get a lot more flexible (obviously have to hit on the pick, which is easier said then done) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 9:52 PM, Tony said: Believe I already posted it in this thread a few pages back, but I'll say it again because I really thought it was spot on. The RB position should be considered a "gasoline" position. They're an accelerant. The OL and scheme are the wood and matches. Gasoline doesn't start a campfire, but it can turn a simple campfire into an absolute blaze. The Bears are still short a few logs. Go build the campfire first, then go get your gasoline. Expand I love that. There’s no sense investing in running backs when there’s so much greater of a need upfront. The most productive running backs of my lifetime were Matt Forte and Thomas Jones (signed, not drafted by the Bears). I’d feel better about drafting one high and hitting on one like those guys if they had a solid line upfront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 12:46 AM, Chicago White Sox said: I’d adding four legit lineman this offseason. Potential long-term LT like Banks at #10, an interior line prospect with one of my 2nd round picks, and two interior lineman who are of the starting caliber in free agency. Ideally, one of those free agents is a legit stud who can actually anchor the line like Smith. That leaves some resource for the D-Line plus depth moves elsewhere. WR in particular is going to need some investment as we don’t really have a #3 at the moment. I know Johnson loves to use his RBs, but I think you can find a cheap alternative there. Would help if Cunningham could land the Jaguars’ GM job and get us an extra 3rd. Expand I think the potential LT might be in question. If you don't grade one out - than Bears might be able to move back 7-9 picks, still get a strong interior prospect and pick up an extra 2nd rounder. But overall I align on your principals and I might argue they could go 2 free agents - one being a big time guy, the other potentially an upgrade at center (which won't break the bank and just might be worth doing - especially seeing this is supposedly NOT a strong center draft). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Can just imagine all the screaming if Judkins Henderson Hampton or Caleb Johnson end up with Chiefs. Guess it depends on how Hunt and Pacheco look in the SB...Hunt getting close to 30 a death sentence these days for primary backs unless third down guys like Austin Ekeler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Quote Between bites of bean dip Sunday, Bears fans will wonder what might have been. What would have happened if Eagles running back Saquon Barkley chose the Bears last offseason when he became a free agent? Would he have been the transcendent star of a NFC championship team, breaking records seemingly with each run? Would he capture the imagination of a city — and a league? Barkley said at Super Bowl Opening Night on Monday that he very nearly became a Bear last March. “Pretty damn close,” he said. https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2025/02/03/before-his-stellar-season-saquon-barkley-came-pretty-damn-close-to-signing-with-the-bears Expand The TL;DR is that the line was a large deciding factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 It’s where I am good with investing in a back in rd 2/3 as long as Bears address oline with 2 of first 4 picks plus two free agent starters (one center and one guard). Clearly all of this gets easier if Cunningham goes to Jags and / or Bears move down. But let’s say Bears sign Kelly or Falcons center and blow their wad on Smith from Chiefs. Take the bama guard in first round (or whatever other guard you have). You will have upgraded entire interior, Wright is ascending and Jones is passable and probably plays better with more talent around. Add more depth picks. You than get a dlinemen with one of 2nd rounders and than maybe grab RB and TE (or db or whatever) with next 2 picks (or a wideout or another guard). I think Bears have a good chance to fill a ton of holes if they do this right and some chips fall their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Would the Titans really take Abdul Carter over Ward (looking at latest ESPN mock)? ThE NFL is such a QB-centric league now...and everyone now knows Levis isn't the guy, except for soup commercials. Also, Deion Sanders' son and Raiders/Brady (#6) will be quite interesting to watch lol. Probably will end up leaving Colorado for Vegas after this upcoming NCAAF season. Depends what type of offense he has without his son, transfer QB and no Travis Hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 5:34 AM, caulfield12 said: Would the Titans really take Abdul Carter over Ward (looking at latest ESPN mock)? ThE NFL is such a QB-centric league now...and everyone now knows Levis isn't the guy, except for soup commercials. Also, Deion Sanders' son and Raiders/Brady (#6) will be quite interesting to watch lol. Probably will end up leaving Colorado for Vegas after this upcoming NCAAF season. Depends what type of offense he has without his son, transfer QB and no Travis Hunter. Expand Which Sanders son are you talking about ending up in Vegas after next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 10:07 AM, Kyyle23 said: Which Sanders son are you talking about ending up in Vegas after next season? Expand Shaddeur drafted as QB with 6th pick...Ward #3 to NYG. Deion to LVR for 2026 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 10:11 AM, caulfield12 said: Shaddeur drafted as QB with 6th pick...Ward #3 to NYG. Deion to LVR for 2026 season. Expand Raiders are gonna fire Carroll after one year for Deion? Mmk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) On 2/4/2025 at 10:20 AM, Kyyle23 said: Raiders are gonna fire Carroll after one year for Deion? Mmk Expand What's the average tenure of a Raiders' coach since Gruden? More likely a situation like TLR...to me, NFL head coaching is just 5-10x more demanding if you're micromanager/control freak. We will see how well Carroll reacts with his coordinators when they struggle out of the gate. Edited February 4 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 10:31 AM, caulfield12 said: What's the average tenure of a Raiders' coach since Gruden? More likely a situation like TLR...to me, NFx head coaching is just 5-10x more demanding if you're micromanager/control freak. We will see how well Carroll reacts with his coordinators when they struggle out of the gate. Expand 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 7:56 PM, Dick Allen said: Myles Garrett has requested a trade. Expand Looking at the available cap spaces there are a bunch of teams this could make sense for. Top on my list would be the Commanders. Others in good cap shape who could use this include some teams the Bears don’t like, basically the whole NFC north had about $50 million in cap space available so the Lions, Packers could be in on this. Vikings maybe but not sure if a chunk of their cap space is going to Darnold. Going down the list, Steelers have same issue as Vikings, Broncos could be interesting, Bengals could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 1:16 PM, Balta1701 said: Others in good cap shape who could use this include some teams the Bears don’t like, basically the whole NFC north had about $50 million in cap space available so the Lions, Packers could be in on this. Vikings maybe but not sure if a chunk of their cap space is going to Darnold. Expand I’m gonna say something very controversial here. I don’t really need to see a Lions D-line with Hutchinson and Garrett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 1:35 PM, Snopek said: I’m gonna say something very controversial here. I don’t really need to see a Lions D-line with Hutchinson and Garrett. Expand Or Garrett and Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 2:09 PM, Kyyle23 said: Or Garrett and Gary Expand In my extremely objective opinion, the Titans are the perfect fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I saw that the Browns pretty much can't trade Garrett until after the draft or they'll take a ~$30M cap hit? I know that would pose a really, really risky endeavor for the Bears, but if they leave some cap room open, an ideal scenario seems like: - Sign Smith, Dalman - Draft Campbell / Banks - Get a RB like Kaleb Johnson with one of the second rounders - Hopefully Cunningham gets hired and they can build out the rest of the lines with the picks. Here's what a GM told Russini the price could be. If the cost is really 2026 picks and forward, I think you have to do this if it works out. Again, I have zero understanding of the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Can we interest the browns in a future first rounder? I will gladly pay you next Tuesday for a hamburger today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 2:26 PM, Kyyle23 said: Can we interest the browns in a future first rounder? I will gladly pay you next Tuesday for a hamburger today Expand If the Bears buying the $15 burger costs the Brown $10 in credit card fees before next Tuesday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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