southsider2k5 Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 1:04 AM, chitownsportsfan said: You kidding? Nah we pay him and let him put up another zero WAR next year that's what we do here. Expand If Jerry is looking to cut, it's a quick way to save a few bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 16, 2024 Author Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 1:04 AM, chitownsportsfan said: You kidding? Nah we pay him and let him put up another zero WAR next year that's what we do here. Expand Same with Sheets...only LH power lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/15/2024 at 8:51 PM, joejoesox said: maybe we should just have a new person make the thread every day regardless lol, first series win since june Expand DH by committee. I dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 Burke's Law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 (edited) On 9/15/2024 at 6:48 PM, caulfield12 said: Julks playing his way off the team. Expand So is Korey Lee. Good gracious, he's been terrible with the bat. Sox should have league-average pitching next season. But they have nothing on offense. Of course the offense is why they are record-setting bad this season. 6-6 avoids the record. Take 4/6 from the Angels (they are bad and the Sox should be trying harder than them) and 1 each from the Padres and Tigers, and on to next season. Edited September 16, 2024 by GreenSox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 3:36 PM, GreenSox said: So is Korey Lee. Good gracious, he's been terrible with the bat. Sox should have league-average pitching next season. But they have nothing on offense. Of course the offense is why they are record-setting bad this season. 6-6 avoids the record. Take 4/6 from the Angels (they are bad and the Sox should be trying harder than them) and 1 each from the Padres and Tigers, and on to next season. Expand Korey Lee arguably has the best arm in baseball as a catcher, has the lowest pop time in the league, and is more than effective defensively. Also…he’s cheap. I’d guess that he and Quero split time next season. Hes been pretty bad at the plate but if the argument is to play Vargas to “see what you’ve got,” they absolutely have to play Korey Lee. A catcher hitting .205 is pretty much inconsequential for a 100 loss team next season so they’ll take the cheap & young options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 3:36 PM, GreenSox said: Sox should have league-average pitching next season. But they have nothing on offense. Of course the offense is why they are record-setting bad this season. Expand Not sure how you can say this. With Crochet gone, the starting rotation has to be the worst in the league.Who is out there that's gonna get people out over five innings. And the bullpen remains a huge problem. Including primary closer if we even need a closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 3:36 PM, GreenSox said: So is Korey Lee. Good gracious, he's been terrible with the bat. Sox should have league-average pitching next season. But they have nothing on offense. Of course the offense is why they are record-setting bad this season. 6-6 avoids the record. Take 4/6 from the Angels (they are bad and the Sox should be trying harder than them) and 1 each from the Padres and Tigers, and on to next season. Expand Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 Vaughn will be back and the focal point of their marketing campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 4:45 PM, greg775 said: Not sure how you can say this. With Crochet gone, the starting rotation has to be the worst in the league.Who is out there that's gonna get people out over five innings. And the bullpen remains a huge problem. Including primary closer if we even need a closer. Expand Well, the Sox have a lot of young pitchers; they pen should be better and they can fill out a staff. I should probably revise that prediction and say 20th. But the offense is why they are historically bad. Measured by OPS, the #29 team is closer to #15, than the #30 (Sox) is to #29. That is qn unbelievable gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 3:45 PM, Rusty said: Korey Lee arguably has the best arm in baseball as a catcher, has the lowest pop time in the league, and is more than effective defensively. Also…he’s cheap. I’d guess that he and Quero split time next season. Hes been pretty bad at the plate but if the argument is to play Vargas to “see what you’ve got,” they absolutely have to play Korey Lee. A catcher hitting .205 is pretty much inconsequential for a 100 loss team next season so they’ll take the cheap & young options. Expand He's also ranked #54 in framing. Now part of that is probably the umps not giving Sox pitchers the benefit of the doubt, because the team is so bad. But Sox pitchers consistently get pinched. And .562 OPS is just not something a great arm and release can overcome. I realize he's nowhere close to the biggest problem, but so far, he's no solution either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 12:23 AM, southsider2k5 said: Vaughn will be in his 2nd arb year. He was at $3.25 million this year, which probably puts him in the $5-6 million range in arb next year. I could totally see a non-tender. Expand disagree. Trade, maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 6:47 PM, oldsox said: disagree. Trade, maybe. Expand Trade, probably. Imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 6:47 PM, oldsox said: disagree. Trade, maybe. Expand I just can't see any interest in him to be traded really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 7:23 PM, Bob Sacamano said: I just can't see any interest in him to be traded really. Expand I think someone will roll the dice on AV. Once he's away from the Sox, he'll do what Kopech is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 6:47 PM, oldsox said: disagree. Trade, maybe. Expand If Vaughn was a free agent would you pay $5 to $6 million for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 8:19 PM, southsider2k5 said: If Vaughn was a free agent would you pay $5 to $6 million for him? Expand I will offer this as a follow up exhibit. This is the MLB WAR rankings for all 1B with over 400 PAs. Offensively AV is #29. Defensively he is #30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 8:19 PM, southsider2k5 said: If Vaughn was a free agent would you pay $5 to $6 million for him? Expand No. I don't want him on my team. Although he's one of those guys who 'still' may be in the 'give him one more year' to emerge category considering his draft status. Vaughn is hitting .246, 17 HRs and 64 RBI. Coincidentally Jake Burger is hitting .244 with 25 homers and 62 RBI. Are they the same player? Sox could have used Burger's 25 homers this year to go to AV's 17. I think Vaughn still may get another year with another team. We know Burger's not done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 12:23 AM, southsider2k5 said: Vaughn will be in his 2nd arb year. He was at $3.25 million this year, which probably puts him in the $5-6 million range in arb next year. I could totally see a non-tender. Expand Is Elko LH ? They probably can't get anyone better than Vaughn for his salary. They could put Vargas at 1st. The few power bats they have they can't afford to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 16, 2024 Share Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 8:05 PM, zisk said: I think someone will roll the dice on AV. Once he's away from the Sox, he'll do what Kopech is doing. Expand This is the only team that will do that. A slow guy with little power only has a place here. It is a mystery the way young players decline in this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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