Y2Jimmy0 Posted Wednesday at 02:16 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:16 PM 2 hours ago, The Beast said: I’m trying to understand several things: - How does JR make money off CHSN if games are over the antenna? Is it low overhead and no cable agreement? - Why didn’t they do something like Marquee? - What percentage of fans will buy the antenna to watch the games? Or will an agreement be reached with cable providers before the season? - What is the audio and visual quality of the channel? And several more…it just doesn’t make sense to me why there is no channel on cable and no app to stream/pay for. It makes me think some agreement should be reached. Maybe Laurence Holmes is right, the new channel will flash something on the broadcasts to have people call Comcast and complain to try and put pressure on the company (which I understand doesn’t have much to gain). They're likely to reach a deal with comcast at some point and probably some non youtube tv streamers as well. It is also expected that they'll distribute direct to consumers in some fashion at some point as well via an app. The revenue brought in from local tv deals was a huge payroll driver though for majority of clubs which is a big issue. There is definitely another work stoppage coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Wednesday at 02:57 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:57 PM 50 minutes ago, tray said: You won't spend $50 for an antenna in order to have numerous free over-the-air channels? Makes no sense whatsoever. https://www.walmart.com/ip/General-Electric-Outdoor-Yagi-HDTV-Antenna-Long-Range-VHF-UHF-1080P-4K-Black-33685/52162885?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=4529&gclsrc=aw.ds&adid=2222222227752162885_117755028669_12420145346&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=501107745824&wl4=pla-394283752452&wl5=9021615&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=52162885&veh=sem_LIA&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyL24BhCtARIsALo0fSCkT7g2VBmugKayW3puTdXcMXCb_NWilPuIcGujYen3ufH4bE2G7GwaApJZEALw_wcB I already pay for it Tray ps I love when you get mad and go and laugh at all of my responses 😂😂😂🤭 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted Wednesday at 03:15 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:15 PM I'm trying to figure out what's so hard to understand that people have different preferences as consumers. Some people prefer to go exclusively with cable or satellite. Some people prefer to go exclusively web-based. Some people don't have a problem watching things with an over-the-air antenna. Some people don't have a problem VPNing and watching pirated broadcasts. I'm not sure why people get angry at other people's preferences for how to watch baseball. Can someone please explain this anger to me, logically? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Wednesday at 03:30 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:30 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Advertising....if they can prove or validate their ratings/share. 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: This. Instead of the carriers being able to sell the ad time, they do directly and keep all of the dollars. Just have a drink for each Ankin Law commercial you see and each time you hear “sponsored by Binny’s”. You’ll need to go to Binny’s to buy more booze just to make it through a game. Is Beggars Pizza still around? Edited Wednesday at 03:32 PM by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Wednesday at 04:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:12 PM 52 minutes ago, JoeC said: I'm trying to figure out what's so hard to understand that people have different preferences as consumers. Some people prefer to go exclusively with cable or satellite. Some people prefer to go exclusively web-based. Some people don't have a problem watching things with an over-the-air antenna. Some people don't have a problem VPNing and watching pirated broadcasts. I'm not sure why people get angry at other people's preferences for how to watch baseball. Can someone please explain this anger to me, logically? Because right now the Bulls are available only on one of those options. It would seem silly and dumb to launch a network with only one of those options available in the regular season of a major sports team in one of the largest cities in the USA, but saying that this is dumb is an attack on the people who made the decisions that led to it happening, which means it is an attack on Reinsdorf and Reinsdorf must be defended. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted Wednesday at 04:13 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:13 PM 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: I already pay for it Tray ps I love when you get mad and go and laugh at all of my responses 😂😂😂🤭 Tray's new crusade against fans who won't buy antennas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Wednesday at 04:16 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:16 PM 3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Tray's new crusade against fans who won't buy antennas... Especially POSERS who claim to live by the park 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted Wednesday at 04:18 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:18 PM 1 hour ago, JoeC said: I'm trying to figure out what's so hard to understand that people have different preferences as consumers. Some people prefer to go exclusively with cable or satellite. Some people prefer to go exclusively web-based. Some people don't have a problem watching things with an over-the-air antenna. Some people don't have a problem VPNing and watching pirated broadcasts. I'm not sure why people get angry at other people's preferences for how to watch baseball. Can someone please explain this anger to me, logically? I don't get it either. Having an OTA option is great. But OTA being virtually the only option on launch is ridiculous in 2024. It's not as if the powers behind this haven't had plenty of time to iron out the kinks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted Wednesday at 04:23 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:23 PM 5 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Especially POSERS who claim to live by the park Never let evidentiary proof derail a baseless argument. That's my motto! (/sarcasm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Wednesday at 04:40 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:40 PM 27 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Because right now the Bulls are available only on one of those options. It would seem silly and dumb to launch a network with only one of those options available in the regular season of a major sports team in one of the largest cities in the USA, but saying that this is dumb is an attack on the people who made the decisions that led to it happening, which means it is an attack on Reinsdorf and Reinsdorf must be defended. Eh, it sounds good, but in reality there is always this period of time where teams are homeless. It happened to the Yankees with YES, it happened to the Dodgers, and it happened in Houston where they had so few carriage agreements they managed a 0.0 rating at one point. This is how nine figure corporations negotiate with other billionaires. They go as they think they can go to win a negotiation for a few more points of profit margin. None of this should be surprising, and it sure isn't unusual. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Wednesday at 05:01 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:01 PM (edited) 47 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: I don't get it either. Having an OTA option is great. But OTA being virtually the only option on launch is ridiculous in 2024. It's not as if the powers behind this haven't had plenty of time to iron out the kinks. Just get an antenna and shut the hell up! 🧌 🤣 Edited Wednesday at 05:03 PM by WhiteSox2023 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted Wednesday at 05:05 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:05 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Just get an antenna and shut the hell up! 🧌 🤣 Basically. Can't express anything but positivity or the complaint police will be all over you... Edited Wednesday at 05:07 PM by Tnetennba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted Wednesday at 05:19 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:19 PM Danny Wirtz talks about the broadcast situation: https://chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2024/10/15/blackhawks-danny-wirtz-chsn-comcast-negotiations-revenue-chairman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie4Pres Posted Wednesday at 06:00 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:00 PM 3 hours ago, tray said: You won't spend $50 for an antenna in order to have numerous free over-the-air channels? Makes no sense whatsoever. https://www.walmart.com/ip/General-Electric-Outdoor-Yagi-HDTV-Antenna-Long-Range-VHF-UHF-1080P-4K-Black-33685/52162885?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=4529&gclsrc=aw.ds&adid=2222222227752162885_117755028669_12420145346&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=501107745824&wl4=pla-394283752452&wl5=9021615&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=52162885&veh=sem_LIA&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyL24BhCtARIsALo0fSCkT7g2VBmugKayW3puTdXcMXCb_NWilPuIcGujYen3ufH4bE2G7GwaApJZEALw_wcB Except I already have all of those channels, and don't need an antenna to watch them. So no, I won't spend $50 on an antenna for a single channel because the people running that channel are imbeciles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted Wednesday at 06:11 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:11 PM 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Especially POSERS who claim to live by the park The soil prevents antenna expansion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted Wednesday at 06:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:12 PM I did nothing and get it but I have Direct Stream. I watched the Charlotte Knights game the other day that's what CSN should have been doing. Only thing I have watched on the channel. If OTA works decent enough I will be saving the fee and bid adieu to Marquee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted Wednesday at 06:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:12 PM On 10/15/2024 at 12:39 PM, Kyyle23 said: Nah don’t think so. You can break your own stuff Sure, you can. But why would you have to. Not even enough self confidence to attach a make shift antenna to a TV. That is one of the saddest things i have ever read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Wednesday at 06:14 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:14 PM 2 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: Sure, you can. But why would you have to. Not even enough self confidence to attach a make shift antenna to a TV. That is one of the saddest things i have ever read Lmao yea I’m afraid. That’s it. Big Antenna corp over here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Wednesday at 06:19 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:19 PM I have changed my mind. I need a antenna so I can be a MAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted Wednesday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:20 PM 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Because right now the Bulls are available only on one of those options. It would seem silly and dumb to launch a network with only one of those options available in the regular season of a major sports team in one of the largest cities in the USA, but saying that this is dumb is an attack on the people who made the decisions that led to it happening, which means it is an attack on Reinsdorf and Reinsdorf must be defended. I guess my post isn't really directed at the insanity of the situation (where they've effectively implemented a blackout over a significant portion of the local market), but rather at the posters who are diving into personal attacks on each other over their choice of streaming, antenna, set top box, or whatever. It kind of blows my mind that people get worked up over things that don't affect them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted Wednesday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:20 PM 2 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: I have changed my mind. I need a antenna so I can be a MAN Based 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Wednesday at 06:23 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:23 PM 4 minutes ago, JoeC said: I guess my post isn't really directed at the insanity of the situation (where they've effectively implemented a blackout over a significant portion of the local market), but rather at the posters who are diving into personal attacks on each other over their choice of streaming, antenna, set top box, or whatever. It kind of blows my mind that people get worked up over things that don't affect them. Because if it reflects badly on Reinsdorf, it has to be challenged forcefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Wednesday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:39 PM (edited) 18 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Because if it reflects badly on Reinsdorf, it has to be challenged forcefully. How could one dare question such an amazing owner in two sports?!? Edited Wednesday at 06:41 PM by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Wednesday at 07:20 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:20 PM 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: I have changed my mind. I need a antenna so I can be a MAN 2024 in a nutshell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted Wednesday at 07:53 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:53 PM 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: I have changed my mind. I need a antenna so I can be a MAN But what if we aren't men? And don't want to be men? f***, now I gotta go be a man to keep posting here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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