1549 Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Upset crazy Northwestern, vs. The mighty Miiiiichigan Wolverines. The Purdue Boilermakers vs. that team from Ohio. and of course the true thriller, the Hoosiers of Bloomington vs. JoePa and the Nittney Lions of Penn St. I think Northwestern and Purdue will both get their doors blown off today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Too bad the illini have today off or else it would be the greatest day ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 "I think Northwestern and Purdue will both get their doors blown off today." Northwestern...yes. Purdue....no. In fact I think Purdue is going to beat Ohio State. Purdue has more talent then Ohio State and is a much more balanced team. What makes you think that Ohio State is going to blow out the #11 team in the country when they can barely beat teams like hapless Penn State and 4 of their victories have been by less then a touchdown? Ohio State doesn't have the talent or personal to blow teams out, especially a top 15 team, and I can tell that you don't watch much college football if you think they are going to blow out Purdue. You are also underestimating the #11 team in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Lets talk about my Hawkeyes against the Golden Gophers. They are playing like a team possessed. The defense is playing with fury and is playing awesome and Chandler is defiantely gaining some confidence for the first time all season. Mix that with Lewis whose a freaking stud at running back and of course the Hawks got Russel who has barely played today. Lewis is probably the better back though. Iowa is looking a lot better this week. Of course they haven't played that well on the road this season. It will be huge though cause they are starting to get healthy, although their two dt's missed most of this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Michigan will probably destroy Northwestern, but I'm hoping NU makes it interesting. NU has beaten Michigan in some thrillers in past years, I doubt that will happen this year though. As for Ohio St. they are not as good as everyone thinks they are. Purdue should beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 I am gonna be stuck watching the crap ass ASU - Washington State game on ABC. Stupid west coast programming :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 I am gonna be stuck watching the crap ass ASU - Washington State game on ABC. Stupid west coast programming :fyou We're getting the Iowa game here!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 We're getting the Iowa game here!!! I'm getting the Iowa game But I don't get the OSU - Purdue game :fyou Pisses me off cause I'm gonna be home during the day..working on my freaking reports that are do. I feel like a dork doing homework on the weekend...I haven't done this in a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted November 15, 2003 Author Share Posted November 15, 2003 "I think Northwestern and Purdue will both get their doors blown off today." Northwestern...yes. Purdue....no. In fact I think Purdue is going to beat Ohio State. Purdue has more talent then Ohio State and is a much more balanced team. What makes you think that Ohio State is going to blow out the #11 team in the country when they can barely beat teams like hapless Penn State and 4 of their victories have been by less then a touchdown? Ohio State doesn't have the talent or personal to blow teams out, especially a top 15 team, and I can tell that you don't watch much college football if you think they are going to blow out Purdue. You are also underestimating the #11 team in the country. I can tell that you like to talk a lot of s***. First off, I am a die hard michigan fan and I watch college football religiously, so don't even accuse me of not watching football. Now that I have cleared that up let me explain my logic to you. First off, Purdue may be ranked #11, but that does not mean that they should be. Yes they have had some great wins, but when Orton is taken out of the equation they are not even a top #25 team. Ohio State has a strong defense, and will try to take Orton out of the mix as Michigan did. If they are successful, which I think they will be, then you can forget about Purdue scoring points. Now to Ohio States offense, granted it is not pretty but it can score points, and except for one game this year it has always scored enough to get by. Krenzel is the most consistent performer I have ever seen behind center at OSU, and he can really rack up the yards when he is on. That is why I am predicting OSU by 17. Purdue's lack of size will haunt them the way it did against the wolverines. By the way the fact that you think you can judge a team by one game seems to imply that you are the one who knows little about college football, not me. (USC lost to a very mediocre Cal team, obviously that means USC can not blow anyone's doors off) I could very well be wrong, but I just don't see Purdue pulling this one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 I'm getting the Iowa game But I don't get the OSU - Purdue game :fyou Pisses me off cause I'm gonna be home during the day..working on my freaking reports that are do. I feel like a dork doing homework on the weekend...I haven't done this in a long time That bad, eh? What are your reports on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 That bad, eh? What are your reports on? a local business...and then a report on business ethics. I'm doing mine on Michael Ovitz and Michael Eisner but I still have to pick which article I'm gonna use in regards to that. Its like a 2 year old issue, but I know quite a bit about it so I figure it shouldn't be too bad. Both are group things, but I got three tests this week too so I can't really fart around. Pissed me off cause I had to skip my weekly football game (every sat bunch of us go to our old highschool football field and play for like 2 or 3 hours. In the summer we do baseball/basketball, but usually are too lazy and just do home run derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted November 15, 2003 Author Share Posted November 15, 2003 At the Half Wolverines 31 Wildcats 3 Avant made a spectacular catch, Andre Ware called it the best catch of the year. That may be an exageration on Ware's part, but either way the catch was fantastic. Navarre has been dead on all game, Northwestern on the contrary has looked flat and lacadazical. Northwestern has fumbled 4 times, 1 fumble resulted in a 12 yard loss, 2 were recovered by Michigan, and the 3rd resulted in a 1 yard gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 I am gonna be stuck watching the crap ass ASU - Washington State game on ABC. Stupid west coast programming :fyou Me too...I live on the west coast and the continue to show these s***ass PAC 10 games instead of the best game of the day. It pisses me off to the point were I want to march up to ABC and kick the s*** out of one of their executives. It doesn't help that I am a huge Purdue fan and want to see a game that has both BIG 10 and BCS implications, as well as being a good, close, hard fought game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Me too...I live on the west coast and the continue to show these s***ass PAC 10 games instead of the best game of the day. It pisses me off to the point were I want to march up to ABC and kick the s*** out of one of their executives. It doesn't help that I am a huge Purdue fan and want to see a game that has both BIG 10 and BCS implications, as well as being a good, close, hard fought game. I was just ass pissed when OSU and Iowa met..albeit Iowa should of killed them. I seriously think if Iowa played like they did today, they beat any team in the big ten. But thats probably my bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 "First off, Purdue may be ranked #11, but that does not mean that they should be. Yes they have had some great wins, but when Orton is taken out of the equation they are not even a top #25 team. Ohio State has a strong defense, and will try to take Orton out of the mix as Michigan did. If they are successful, which I think they will be, then you can forget about Purdue scoring points." Let me get this straight you critize me for making a judgement based on one game, and come right back and make a judgement on one game. Just making sure I understand. When you contradict yourself you lose credibility. What if I judged Michigan on the 1st 3 quarters of the Minnesota game, or the Oregon game, or the Iowa game. Does that give me an accurate idea of how good Michigan is? Of course not, so don't use one lose to say you accurately now what is going to happen or how good Purdue is. Why don't you take the best player away from each team and see how they do? That is ridiculous and a very stupid way to make a comparison. Besides, if you knew the facts you would know that Purdue's D is ranked in the top 15 in the national(higher then Michigan last time I checked) and also have one of the top rushing attacks in the game that tore up the 4th ranked Iowa rush D(opposed to Perry and company who were held to 74 yards). Maybe if you learned to make decisions on more then one game and knew the facts you would be better off. This team has won because of amazing balance both offensively and defensively, both running the ball and passing the ball, both stopping the run and stopping the pass. "That is why I am predicting OSU by 17." My advice would be to stay away from Vegas because you would be living on the street if you made stupid bets like that. When you factor in that Ohio State has only won 2 games by more then 17 points(Indiana and Northwestern) you get a retarded prediction like OSU is going to beat Purdue by 17. You are really going to eat some chow today. As it stands now it is 6-6, but your right OSU is going to kill them based on one bad lose to Michigan. Your a joke loser. "By the way the fact that you think you can judge a team by one game seems to imply that you are the one who knows little about college football, not me. (USC lost to a very mediocre Cal team, obviously that means USC can not blow anyone's doors off)" See above. Pot meet kettle. "Wolverines 31 Wildcats 3" Why don't you update the Purdue-Ohio State game since you are so sure that OSU is going to kill them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 1549 is the same person who said Florida State was done being good. "Even read ESPN Magazine," he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Have I mentioned how much I hate ABC? The Pac 10 game is as good as over, and the Purdue-Ohio State game is going into overtime, yet they continue to show this s***ty Pac 10 game. f*** ABC and the west coast. :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Ohio State wins when Purdue misses a field goal in overtime. That was an awesome game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Purdue's FG kicker better hope I don't see him next time I am in West Lafayette. I am going to punch him in the face if I do. He misses two FG under 40 yards that would have won the game. I f***ing hate kickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Now to Ohio States offense, granted it is not pretty but it can score points, and except for one game this year it has always scored enough to get by. Krenzel is the most consistent performer I have ever seen behind center at OSU, and he can really rack up the yards when he is on. That is why I am predicting OSU by 17. Purdue's lack of size will haunt them the way it did against the wolverines. Ohio state's offense really proved how great the were. They once again scored fewer touchdowns then thier defense.. 1-0 The kicker scored the rest... Thier punter and kicker were clearly the most valuable players on the field today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Where is 1549? Its time to eat your chow. While Purdue didn't win they certainly weren't blown out by 17 points like you predicted. Shows that you can't judge a team based on one game. Purdue just buckled in the Michigan game and are a lot better then they showed. I don't think they can beat Michigan in the Big House(Michigan is clearly the best team in the Big Ten with no disrespect to Ohio State IMO), but I am sure that if they played again it would be much closer. That was about the most even game you could have had, and I have to give Ohio State their due. The keep winning no matter what. I think there was a 4 yard difference in total yards. Mistakes are what lost Purdue the game(2 turnovers and 2 missed FG with 40 yards including the one in OT). The Ohio State punter was their MVP. How many times did he stick Purdue inside the 10 yard line? That was amazing. It seemed like every Purdue drive was starting on their own 7 or 8 yard line. Its hard to go 90+ yards against one of the top D's in the country, and thats why they are sucessful. I have a feeling that they will need more then luck against Michigan though. That had to be one of the top games this year. Good old Big Ten football. Too bad I missed most of it because the west coast felt it was more important to show the great WSU vs. ASU game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted November 16, 2003 Author Share Posted November 16, 2003 Ok here we go Let me get this straight you critize me for making a judgement based on one game, and come right back and make a judgement on one game. Just making sure I understand. When you contradict yourself you lose credibility. I said that if a team were to take Orton out of the equation like Michigan did, then Purdue is in trouble. I did not base a team on one game per se. It is stupid to say that Ohio State isn't good because they hardly beat Penn St. Why don't you update the Purdue-Ohio State game since you are so sure that OSU is going to kill them When I was online, the Ohio St. game had not gone to half-time yet. Purdue's FG kicker better hope I don't see him next time I am in West Lafayette. I am going to punch him in the face if I do. He misses two FG under 40 yards that would have won the game. I f***ing hate kickers. Temple fans also hate kickers right now Where is 1549? Its time to eat your chow. While Purdue didn't win they certainly weren't blown out by 17 points like you predicted. Shows that you can't judge a team based on one game. I am not afraid to say that I was wrong in my prediction, but it was hardly based on one game. I gave one example of how to stop purdue, that was based on one game. Purdue's defense forced me to go with Ohio St. as much as their offense. Purdue's defense (even though it is ranked 9th or whatever you said it was), did not impress me against Michigan, Wisconsin, Bowling Green, or Iowa. As far as the whole defensive rankings goes, there was no need to say that Purdue's defense is better than michigans, I don't care how the two defenses match up statistically, the fact is Michigan f***ing dropped the hammer on Purdue. I have a feeling that they will need more then luck against Michigan though. I hope so, I will be at the game Saturday, and if Michigan loses, it will be a very sad ride back to NJ. Good old Big Ten football. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted November 16, 2003 Author Share Posted November 16, 2003 1549 is the same person who said Florida State was done being good. "Even read ESPN Magazine," he said. I am getting roasted in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 "I said that if a team were to take Orton out of the equation like Michigan did, then Purdue is in trouble. I did not base a team on one game per se.' BS. You made you 17 point prediction based solely on the Michigan game. If you would have seen any other Purdue games you would have known that they are much more talented then you made them out to be and DESERVED to be ranked #10-11. If you knew anything about Ohio State you would have known that they had only beat 2 teams by more then 17 points(hapless Indiana and Northwestern) and that they didn't have the personal to beat Purdue by that much. You can try and wiggle your way out, but the fact is that you made your prediction based on one game(which was not a good indication of how good Purdue was), and then critize me for doing the same. Pot meet kettle. "I gave one example of how to stop purdue, that was based on one game." Stopping Orton is easier said then done. You said it as if it was an easy thing to do, but the fact is that Michigan was the only team able to do it, which only further proves that you based your prediction on one game. Watch out next year! Orton will probably be one of the favorites for the Heisman. He struggled most of the game, but showwed how good he is by leading Purdue on that 90+ yard drive to tie the game in the 4th quarter. You also underestimated other aspects of the Purdue team. Their D that was ranked in the top 10 and once again played well(allowed 6 points tonight against that great OSU offense...I don't count that last FG since they start on the 25 yard line in OT). They have a very solid RB in Void. They are very good on special teams, although the usually reliable Jones buckled under the pressure today. This is much more then a one-dimension team that can't win without Orton. In fact, they have been more of a running team this year. This is a complete team that you underestimated based on one poor performance. "Purdue's defense forced me to go with Ohio St. as much as their offense. Purdue's defense (even though it is ranked 9th or whatever you said it was), did not impress me against Michigan, Wisconsin, Bowling Green, or Iowa." How old are you 10? Is that picture in the next post a picture of you? How does a top 10 D force you to pick the other team? That makes absolutely no sense. The Purdue D is great at stopping the run and has a great pass rush to nullify the passing game. This team has shut down every team they have played except Michigan and thats why they are ranked in the top 10 nationally. "As far as the whole defensive rankings goes, there was no need to say that Purdue's defense is better than michigans, I don't care how the two defenses match up statistically, the fact is Michigan f***ing dropped the hammer on Purdue." What if I based my analysis of the Michigan D on the 1st 3 quarters of the Minnesota game in which they were dominated and looked like a high school D. You keep refering to the Michigan game, but continue to realize that wasn't a good indication of how good Purdue is. If they were to play again IN WEST LAFAYETTE I think Purdue wins that game. Next time don't disrespect a team you know nothing about because it will come back to bite you in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Besides, if you knew the facts you would know that Purdue's D is ranked in the top 15 in the national(higher then Michigan last time I checked) when Michigan and Purdue's defenses met this year, what was the final score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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