Balta1701 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41416529/mlb-2024-chicago-white-sox-121-losses-all-record-worst-team-history-moments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 The most dysfunctional team in sports, ladies and gentlemen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 I hate so many of these players. Just terrible character judgment by Hahn, KW and Getz. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 "The front office promoted first-year coach Grady Sizemore to interim manager, essentially taking on-the-field decisions out of the dugout and into the executive suite. Sizemore had expressed no desire to manage but was picked because players like him. " 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I hate so many of these players. Just terrible character judgment by Hahn, KW and Getz. do you remember when they signed Eaton and bucket sang its praises as a move the sox felt would help hold the younger players accountable lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: " The front office promoted first-year coach Grady Sizemore to interim manager, essentially taking on-the-field decisions out of the dugout and into the executive suite. Sizemore had expressed no desire to manage but was picked because players like him. " I wonder if it is just that Sizemore didn’t want to manage this record breaking team or if he doesn’t want to manage at all and be a special advisor / developmental guy in a team’s front office? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Grandal is a giant pile of s%*#. That was a god awful signing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Also, Tony has killed this franchise so much. He needs to go away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I wonder if it is just that Sizemore didn’t want to manage this record breaking team or if he doesn’t want to manage at all and be a special advisor / developmental guy in a team’s front office? That's a good question. Maybe he's self aware enough not to want the job, or want to manage yet until he has more coaching experience? And he's just being a good soldier as interim? I just found the quote alarming, and it more or less confirms Grady is just there to follow orders from above. Edited September 25 by Tnetennba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Also, I wonder how much political leanings led to some of the friction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Also, Tony has killed this franchise so much. He needs to go away. And take JR with him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 25 Author Share Posted September 25 13 minutes ago, fathom said: Also, Tony has killed this franchise so much. He needs to go away. If you read this, it’s clear that JR thinks things went bad because Tony isn’t managing any more. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: If you read this, it’s clear that JR thinks things went bad because Tony isn’t managing any more. And yet Tony sounds like a main reason Getz got hired 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 I don’t care. I love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Quote At the 2023 trade deadline, other teams -- aware of the dysfunction in the White Sox's clubhouse -- passed on opportunities to take on some of the veterans because of the ugliness of some of the emanating stories. One executive said of one of the pitchers the White Sox were trying to trade: "We've seen that act before." Trying to think who this would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 That clubhouse was a s%*# show in a dumpster fire on a train wreck. How the f*** did they let it get so bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, fathom said: Also, I wonder how much political leanings led to some of the friction Advocating for the right for the LGBTQ community shouldn't be a political issue. It's just about not being a total fucking asshole. I suspect it had something to do with it though. 7 1 2 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 I don’t want them to trade Crochet or Robert because Getz is going to get fleeced but knowing how much of a dumpster fire this franchise is makes me hope they trade both of them before the Sox destroy their careers. I’m glad Kopech got out. This story is almost exactly the reason I see negative value in bringing up a guy like Quero for this season. I’d prefer to even keep guys like Baldwin, Sosa far away. Also confirms almost all suspicions on why Vargas always looks like a sad puppy and why Giolito appeared physically ill at all times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Two thoughts: 1) Other than Jerry, it seems that TLR is the root cause of a lot of strife in the org. 2) @southsider2k5 looks like our theory about the new organizational attitude towards Latinos might hold weight if you read what Olney and Rogers are thinly implying. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 So this was the Jerry plant piece to blame all of the people they wanted blamed to take the eye off of them. Wondered when this was coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 7 minutes ago, Quin said: Two thoughts: 1) Other than Jerry, it seems that TLR is the root cause of a lot of strife in the org. Again, something all of us already knew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 12 minutes ago, Quin said: Two thoughts: 1) Other than Jerry, it seems that TLR is the root cause of a lot of strife in the org. 2) @southsider2k5 looks like our theory about the new organizational attitude towards Latinos might hold weight if you read what Olney and Rogers are thinly implying. Sure doesn't do anything to fight it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 I think having Tony "retire" would help at least a little bit. It certainly wouldn't hurt. It all started going wrong once he started getting comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, fathom said: Also, Tony has killed this franchise so much. He needs to go away. This should be literally step 2. Jerry going away step 1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This should be literally step 2. Jerry going away step 1. If 1. happens, 2. follows really fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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