SoCalChiSox Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 20 hours ago, fathom said: I couldn’t be more certain that Crochet will never throw another pitch for the White Sox We need legit positional talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 9 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: We need legit positional talent. Can I interest you in a formerly highly rated prospect experiencing failure? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 20 hours ago, fathom said: I couldn’t be more certain that Crochet will never throw another pitch for the White Sox They need to get out from Benintendi's albatross contract of checks notes $47.5 million. Considering where their payroll will be next year, it's laughable that that amount is considered an albatross, especially after his (I can't believe I'm saying this) second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 12 minutes ago, Quin said: They need to get out from Benintendi's albatross contract of checks notes $47.5 million. Considering where their payroll will be next year, it's laughable that that amount is considered an albatross, especially after his (I can't believe I'm saying this) second half. It's a joke for a franchise with essentially no payroll obligations going forward. We act like we are the Oakland As, except without scouting, player development, or savvy trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It's a joke for a franchise with essentially no payroll obligations going forward. We act like we are the Oakland As, except without scouting, player development, or savvy trades. It's a next level poverty franchise move and any GM that can't convince their owner how asinine it is to attach Benintendi's mid-sized contract to Crochet is not worth their salt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 10 minutes ago, Quin said: It's a next level poverty franchise move and any GM that can't convince their owner how asinine it is to attach Benintendi's mid-sized contract to Crochet is not worth their salt. If a person believed that Getz was so inept that he would trade Crochet for one less Miguel Vargas than everyone thought they'd get, then maybe packaging a cooked Benintendi wouldn't be the worst idea on Earth. But Benintendi has shown signs of life in the final third, and it would be ludicrous to gift two years of a front-of-the-staff ace to take three years of appropriately paid production off of our hands. (Maybe 1.5 seasons of renaissance Benny, 3/4 season of bearable, platoon DH, and another 3/4 season of ass.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) 28 minutes ago, WestEddy said: If a person believed that Getz was so inept that he would trade Crochet for one less Miguel Vargas than everyone thought they'd get, then maybe packaging a cooked Benintendi wouldn't be the worst idea on Earth. But Benintendi has shown signs of life in the final third, and it would be ludicrous to gift two years of a front-of-the-staff ace to take three years of appropriately paid production off of our hands. (Maybe 1.5 seasons of renaissance Benny, 3/4 season of bearable, platoon DH, and another 3/4 season of ass.) Agreed. Benintendi’s second half should be enough to keep him around to see if he can continue his comeback into next season. If Benintendi is attached to a Crochet trade, that will just be proof that Jerry wanted to dump his contract, trade return be damned. Edited September 30 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) Seems like over 95% of players claim they want an extension (who doesn’t want guaranteed money?) while under control. Doesn’t mean it’s likely. Gotta match his price. Edited September 30 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 3 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Seems like over 95% of players claim they want an extension (who doesn’t want guaranteed money?) while under control. Doesn’t mean it’s likely. Gotta match his price. Pretty much everyone states this because it is good for business. Don't offend anyone. We would know everything by knowing what kind of ask he has made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) I just hope for another Orioles early departure from the postseason. Can't believe they did nothing for that rotation (relatively speaking) with Burnes and Santander in their final years.. yikes. Edited September 30 by Squirmin' for Yermin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) On 9/28/2024 at 7:03 PM, joejoesox said: theres no way the Sox extend him, even with a below market deal. Being a White Sox fan is misery. The White Sox ... where the team's best players get traded to fuel tank jobs/rebuild jobs. What a joke. It used to be the Sox had as many as five studs or more at a time on their team Now? It's laughable. Sosa and Ramos and Fletcher and Kory, get ready for 550 to 600 at bats in 2025. LOL. Edited October 1 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 9/30/2024 at 10:40 AM, Quin said: It's a next level poverty franchise move and any GM that can't convince their owner how asinine it is to attach Benintendi's mid-sized contract to Crochet is not worth their salt. Here's my crazy idea of the day... Seeing the Diamondbacks meltdown over Jordan Montgomery, see if they are interested in a bad contract swap. Call it a crazy hunch, but a few things here. #1, he signed March 29th. Especially for pitchers, late signings seem to have big problems the same season. That spring training seems important #2, looks like he has a $22.5 million option which would have exercised and only one year of cost. While he costs more than Benny in year 1, the contract is over after 2025. #3 Benny's contract is apparently too much for the Chicago A's to stomach, so this gets them out of the last two years while saving a good chunk of change. No idea if AZ would be interested, but after hearing their own blow up Monty in the press today, he can't go back there., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Here's my crazy idea of the day... Seeing the Diamondbacks meltdown over Jordan Montgomery, see if they are interested in a bad contract swap. Call it a crazy hunch, but a few things here. #1, he signed March 29th. Especially for pitchers, late signings seem to have big problems the same season. That spring training seems important #2, looks like he has a $22.5 million option which would have exercised and only one year of cost. While he costs more than Benny in year 1, the contract is over after 2025. #3 Benny's contract is apparently too much for the Chicago A's to stomach, so this gets them out of the last two years while saving a good chunk of change. No idea if AZ would be interested, but after hearing their own blow up Monty in the press today, he can't go back there., It's worth a shot, thanks to their idiot owner. Not sure if they'd have any use for Benintendi, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Here's my crazy idea of the day... Seeing the Diamondbacks meltdown over Jordan Montgomery, see if they are interested in a bad contract swap. Call it a crazy hunch, but a few things here. #1, he signed March 29th. Especially for pitchers, late signings seem to have big problems the same season. That spring training seems important #2, looks like he has a $22.5 million option which would have exercised and only one year of cost. While he costs more than Benny in year 1, the contract is over after 2025. #3 Benny's contract is apparently too much for the Chicago A's to stomach, so this gets them out of the last two years while saving a good chunk of change. No idea if AZ would be interested, but after hearing their own blow up Monty in the press today, he can't go back there., Sure, why not. And if he returns to his 2021-2023 form in the first half, that's a much better trade chip than Benny would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Here's my crazy idea of the day... Seeing the Diamondbacks meltdown over Jordan Montgomery, see if they are interested in a bad contract swap. Call it a crazy hunch, but a few things here. #1, he signed March 29th. Especially for pitchers, late signings seem to have big problems the same season. That spring training seems important #2, looks like he has a $22.5 million option which would have exercised and only one year of cost. While he costs more than Benny in year 1, the contract is over after 2025. #3 Benny's contract is apparently too much for the Chicago A's to stomach, so this gets them out of the last two years while saving a good chunk of change. No idea if AZ would be interested, but after hearing their own blow up Monty in the press today, he can't go back there., I'm in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Here's my crazy idea of the day... Seeing the Diamondbacks meltdown over Jordan Montgomery, see if they are interested in a bad contract swap. Call it a crazy hunch, but a few things here. #1, he signed March 29th. Especially for pitchers, late signings seem to have big problems the same season. That spring training seems important #2, looks like he has a $22.5 million option which would have exercised and only one year of cost. While he costs more than Benny in year 1, the contract is over after 2025. #3 Benny's contract is apparently too much for the Chicago A's to stomach, so this gets them out of the last two years while saving a good chunk of change. No idea if AZ would be interested, but after hearing their own blow up Monty in the press today, he can't go back there., I’m in. Also of note - the DBacks owner fully and publicly acknowledges that he was responsible for the Montgomery signing, over the objections of the FO. The obvious “throw the player under the bus” thing aside, can you imagine Jerry admitting that hiring TLR was his idea and that it was a mistake? Can you imagine Jerry admitting that hiring Getz was a mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, JoeC said: I’m in. Also of note - the DBacks owner fully and publicly acknowledges that he was responsible for the Montgomery signing, over the objections of the FO. The obvious “throw the player under the bus” thing aside, can you imagine Jerry admitting that hiring TLR was his idea and that it was a mistake? Can you imagine Jerry admitting that hiring Getz was a mistake? I will also note that he took responsibility in a LIVE INTERVIEW, not a press release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I think the biggest difference other than admitting being wrong is there is no way JR would suggest signing a Jordan Montgomery type to a 1 year $25 million contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 On 9/29/2024 at 11:49 AM, fathom said: I couldn’t be more certain that Crochet will never throw another pitch for the White Sox So you think the Sox are going to get fair offers of high end position prospects that aren't 1st basemen or catchers ? Or will they settle for less ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: So you think the Sox are going to get fair offers of high end position prospects that aren't 1st basemen or catchers ? Or will they settle for less ? Option C. Getz will acquire a player he thinks is great and an immediate starter but the shine on the player will be long worn already. Think 5.6 WAR Fedde and 1.3 WAR Kopech for -0.8 WAR Vargas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 34 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: So you think the Sox are going to get fair offers of high end position prospects that aren't 1st basemen or catchers ? Or will they settle for less ? Settle for less cause they include Benintendi in a deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Settle for less cause they include Benintendi in a deal This would likely be the last straw from a fan perspective. Even the last few remaining Getz supporters would tar and feather the guy if he does this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: This would likely be the last straw from a fan perspective. Even the last few remaining Getz supporters would tar and feather the guy if he does this. A 121 loss season with multiple bad trades and signing a domestic abuser wasn’t the last straw, but this bad trade is the last straw? Naw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 28 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: A 121 loss season with multiple bad trades and signing a domestic abuser wasn’t the last straw, but this bad trade is the last straw? Naw. There’s still some Getz defenders left on this very site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Attaching Benintendi to Crochet would be the single dumbest decision in baseball history and only this shitshow of an org would even consider something so idiotic. If it happens, it should be very clear that Harold is Getz. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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