southsider2k5 Posted Thursday at 12:55 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:55 PM 1 hour ago, oldsox said: I still hate giving up Vaughn for nothing, when we have no one ready to step in. This season, Benintendi, Lopez, and Vaughn all got off to horrible starts. They couldn't buy a hit. Add in Maldonado and the tres amigos who all got hurt early again, and they had no chance. Now, if both Benintendi and Vaughn start next season better, they might win a few games and keep things interesting. That's my pipe dream. https://www.behavioraleconomics.com/resources/mini-encyclopedia-of-be/sunk-cost-fallacy/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Thursday at 01:11 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:11 PM 1 hour ago, oldsox said: I still hate giving up Vaughn for nothing, when we have no one ready to step in. This season, Benintendi, Lopez, and Vaughn all got off to horrible starts. They couldn't buy a hit. Add in Maldonado and the tres amigos who all got hurt early again, and they had no chance. Now, if both Benintendi and Vaughn start next season better, they might win a few games and keep things interesting. That's my pipe dream. Aspiring to be the Pirates essentially is not going to work as a long-term strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Thursday at 01:26 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:26 PM 1 hour ago, oldsox said: I still hate giving up Vaughn for nothing, when we have no one ready to step in. This season, Benintendi, Lopez, and Vaughn all got off to horrible starts. They couldn't buy a hit. Add in Maldonado and the tres amigos who all got hurt early again, and they had no chance. Now, if both Benintendi and Vaughn start next season better, they might win a few games and keep things interesting. That's my pipe dream. Two of those tres amigos haven’t really shown much offensively at the major league level and the third forgot how to hit when he put on the esteemed Sox jersey. This is a “wish in one hand and s%*# in the other and tell me which fills up first” scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Thursday at 01:48 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:48 PM 1 hour ago, oldsox said: I still hate giving up Vaughn for nothing, when we have no one ready to step in. This season, Benintendi, Lopez, and Vaughn all got off to horrible starts. They couldn't buy a hit. Add in Maldonado and the tres amigos who all got hurt early again, and they had no chance. Now, if both Benintendi and Vaughn start next season better, they might win a few games and keep things interesting. That's my pipe dream. Vargas could shift to 1B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Thursday at 02:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:04 PM 16 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Vargas could shift to 1B. Which is exactly what 29 other franchises would do so they could run Ramos at 3rd. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted Thursday at 02:57 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:57 PM 11 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Both were about the same as Vaughn in WAR because of how bad Vaughn’s defense is. Neither team is going to “upgrade” to Vaughn from those guys. Definitely not the Yankees. It would be a lateral move. Vaughn has next to zero value. He’s a 1B that hits like a 2B and plays defense like a DH. Detroit had a better total WAR from 1B than the Sox did. Tork >> Vaughn, period. NYY isn't looking at Vaughn and thinking he's an upgrade from Rizzo. Houston just lived through Pito cratering so they definitely are looking for better production than a no bat no glove 1B. The list of teams that would look at Andrew Vaughn and think he's an upgrade is very very short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted Thursday at 02:57 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:57 PM 53 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Which is exactly what 29 other franchises would do so they could run Ramos at 3rd. I would try it simply for getting him in a new headspace of "new season, new outlook, new responsibilities" and hopefully he refinds some of his hitting talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFAthewave69420 Posted Thursday at 03:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:38 PM Vaughn & Elko working a 1B/DH combo is perfectly fine next year. $6M to see if Vaughn puts it together for a full season next year is not the end of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted Thursday at 04:48 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 04:48 PM I feel like they'll decline arb and then negotiate a 2 year deal worth about 6-7mil. his agent is gonna say what exactly, "this is ludicrous! absolutely reprehensible!" no, he's gonna have him sign and it'll be done. and Vaughn will be lucky to get that deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Thursday at 06:55 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:55 PM 5 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Aspiring to be the Pirates essentially is not going to work as a long-term strategy. Only if you are into pissing off your fanbase. Jerry has the box checked, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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