JoeC Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 You don't get sarcasm, do you, @kitekrazy? that was the whole Leury thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 On 10/2/2024 at 4:19 PM, Texsox said: He's another example of a guy that was rushed to the majors plus being forced to play out of position. It's no wonder his stats are what they are. He would have spent a couple years getting ready in a quality organization. One of the problems of the last rebuild was the lack of a true right fielder and a second baseman, instead we had AV and Sheets playing right field, surprised they didn’t try AV at second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 57 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: One of the problems of the last rebuild was the lack of a true right fielder and a second baseman, instead we had AV and Sheets playing right field, surprised they didn’t try AV at second. Remember they had Burger taking round balls at second base before games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Remember they had Burger taking round balls at second base before games. He actually played 3 games at second base in 2022 and never made an error, still think it was a mistake to trade him, his 29 homers might have won a few more games this past year. Edited October 5 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said: He actually played 3 games at second base in 2022 and never made an error, still think it was a mistake to trade him, his 29 homers might have won a few more games this past year. WOW, so the white sox would have won 42? Boy, that’s totally a difference making kind of change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 41 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: WOW, so the white sox would have won 42? Boy, that’s totally a difference making kind of change. Maybe 45. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 11 hours ago, JoeC said: You don't get sarcasm, do you, @kitekrazy? that was the whole Leury thing. Pretty sure he also said he was finding a new team to cheer for, so not when sure why he is still around saying “we” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: WOW, so the white sox would have won 42? Boy, that’s totally a difference making kind of change. Might have won 43 and not set a record. But of course Jake Eder is a stud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted Friday at 11:11 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:11 PM On 10/5/2024 at 11:43 AM, The Mighty Mite said: One of the problems of the last rebuild was the lack of a true right fielder and a second baseman, instead we had AV and Sheets playing right field, surprised they didn’t try AV at second. He did start a game at second in 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted Friday at 11:14 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:14 PM On 10/5/2024 at 4:34 PM, Balta1701 said: WOW, so the white sox would have won 42? Boy, that’s totally a difference making kind of change. Yeah there was probably nothing they could have done differently to go from 93 wins to 41 in a three year span Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted Friday at 11:20 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:20 PM On 10/2/2024 at 12:03 PM, Greg Hibbard said: No idea how to evaluate this guy as a good or bad asset for the team. The pros: Healthiest player on the roster, remarkably consistent, seems like a good clubhouse guy. The cons: His ceiling apparently equals his floor, not enough power, no speed, 4 years in the majors now - he is what he is. I think he's fine to move forward with because of how bad we are, but he seems like every other White Sox asset - never quite good enough to be elite or even above average, never quite bad enough to be cut or traded. A middling talent. Also, his WAR was 0.2 this season mostly playing 1b/DH. Wins Over Replacement typically means replacing him with whoever comes up from the minors, right? I have hard time believing any player coming up would automatically hit 30 doubles and 19 home runs. With AV or Sheets you get a max 700 ops guy with poor defensive skills. As if they never had to worry about having a good glove with their hitting skills. Curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Friday at 11:48 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:48 PM 24 minutes ago, pcq said: With AV or Sheets you get a max 700 ops guy with poor defensive skills. As if they never had to worry about having a good glove with their hitting skills. Curious. Elko or maybe Ramos if they insist on Vargas at third over second… Or Sosa. None of those three are plus gloves, either. And none of those guys are sure things to hit over 700 when DeJong and Pham were the only two to barely manage that on the team. They’re just cheaper. Not even sure about more exciting, despite relative youth on their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted Saturday at 11:12 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:12 AM 11 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Elko or maybe Ramos if they insist on Vargas at third over second… Or Sosa. None of those three are plus gloves, either. And none of those guys are sure things to hit over 700 when DeJong and Pham were the only two to barely manage that on the team. They’re just cheaper. Not even sure about more exciting, despite relative youth on their side. I beg to differ on Elko’s defense. He may K in a third of his at bats, but the man can pick it at first. A huge defensive upgrade over either Vaughn or Sheets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted yesterday at 12:10 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:10 PM (edited) I am trying to think what the Sox will do assuming they keep Vaughn, how about the following: 1st base: Ramos (even if he is new to the position I will take his glove over Vaughn's) 2nd base: Sosa 3rd base: Vargus sink or swim and then move on and then call up Montgomery to replace him Full time DH: Vaughn, just let him concentrate on hitting. I am not expecting miracles here. Release Sheets Edited yesterday at 12:11 PM by Falstaff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 12:25 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:25 PM 16 minutes ago, Falstaff said: I am trying to think what the Sox will do assuming they keep Vaughn, how about the following: 1st base: Ramos (even if he is new to the position I will take his glove over Vaughn's) 2nd base: Sosa 3rd base: Vargus sink or swim and then move on and then call up Montgomery to replace him Full time DH: Vaughn, just let him concentrate on hitting. I am not expecting miracles here. Release Sheets SS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted yesterday at 12:35 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:35 PM (edited) 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: SS? Not sure. I thought I saw Montgomery playing 3rd down in AZ, I could be wrong. I have also read that Montgomery in the long run is more suited for 3rd over SS. Edited yesterday at 12:35 PM by Falstaff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry McNertney Posted yesterday at 12:41 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:41 PM Based upon Montgomery's performance this past season at AAA Charlotte, he may be more suited for another sport other than baseball. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey21 Posted yesterday at 01:15 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:15 PM In regards to the header of this thread Get rid of him, let him thrive somewhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 01:31 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:31 PM Probably the Twins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted yesterday at 01:40 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:40 PM Vaughn sucks. Time to move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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