kitekrazy Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 5 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Odds are higher Santander becomes another albatross contract at that age were the Sox to sign him for 3-5 years...you're certainly NOT going to see that investment from Baltimore. That's the whole point of having a productive farm system. Only the Sox. Other organizations probably not and that would also depend on the rest of the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, LittleHurtCG said: How did the Royals go from 106 losses to the playoffs in one year? Obviously they built around a generational talent in Bobby Witt Junior but one guy is not responsible for turning things around so dramatically. That helps. Sometimes there is luck in drafting. Then there's Getz who would be looking to trade him for a vargas haul I guess this is where the Sox failed in the wannabee Royals model. Lose 100 games - cut payroll. Interesting that in the Fall League I've seen most people wearing Royals gear at their stadium. As for Sox gear at Camelback - not too hard to guess. Edited October 29 by kitekrazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Sign nobody and tank for #1 would be my plan. If you tender vaughn it's simply as trade bait and to fill a roster spot with a 0-1 WAR type that will be a tank commander. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 20 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Sign nobody and tank for #1 would be my plan. If you tender vaughn it's simply as trade bait and to fill a roster spot with a 0-1 WAR type that will be a tank commander. So an exact repeat of last year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 2 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: So an exact repeat of last year? Sure, except without Manfred ball rules fucking us. Getting 1,1 immediately injects like 10 projected WAR into our system, at min. That's exactly what we need. It's hard for even 'tard clubs to screw that up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 (edited) 15 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Sure, except without Manfred ball rules fucking us. Getting 1,1 immediately injects like 10 projected WAR into our system, at min. That's exactly what we need. It's hard for even 'tard clubs to screw that up. Aiken and Kolek? Delmon Young? Brien Taylor? Josh Hamilton until he got straightened out... Edited October 29 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: Sure, except without Manfred ball rules fucking us. Getting 1,1 immediately injects like 10 projected WAR into our system, at min. That's exactly what we need. It's hard for even 'tard clubs to screw that up. You do realize there’s a lottery now right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 hours ago, LittleHurtCG said: How did the Royals go from 106 losses to the playoffs in one year? Obviously they built around a generational talent in Bobby Witt Junior but one guy is not responsible for turning things around so dramatically. They spent more in 1 year than any other team in the AL last offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: Sign nobody and tank for #1 would be my plan. If you tender vaughn it's simply as trade bait and to fill a roster spot with a 0-1 WAR type that will be a tank commander. Wrong sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: They spent more in 1 year than any other team in the AL last offseason. That's where the Sox stopped being Royal like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 8 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: You do realize there’s a lottery now right? It's all a lottery no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: It's all a lottery no matter what. Naw, this is an actual lottery. The worst team can wind up with the 6th pick, and the worst 3 qualifying teams have the same odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 18 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Naw, this is an actual lottery. The worst team can wind up with the 6th pick, and the worst 3 qualifying teams have the same odds. I know but drafting in baseball is far much difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydanks Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 14 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: Sign nobody and tank for #1 would be my plan. If you tender vaughn it's simply as trade bait and to fill a roster spot with a 0-1 WAR type that will be a tank commander. building through the draft is such an asinine opinion that even in sports that don't have 400s player in their system it's never worked (that one weird hockey year doesnt count). i know you're right 100% of the time in MLB the Show but real life aint that bro Edited October 30 by bobbydanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 hours ago, bobbydanks said: building through the draft is such an asinine opinion that even in sports that don't have 400s player in their system it's never worked (that one weird hockey year doesnt count). i know you're right 100% of the time in MLB the Show but real life aint that bro Plus you need great development. I still don't understand why people think MLB is like the NBA or NFL. It's a big difference when division 1 is your farm system where in baseball you are taking chances on kids that are in high school as well and on the whole planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) 16 hours ago, kitekrazy said: Plus you need great development. I still don't understand why people think MLB is like the NBA or NFL. It's a big difference when division 1 is your farm system where in baseball you are taking chances on kids that are in high school as well and on the whole planet. Much closer to NBA though...especially in terms of internationalization and high schoolers to the pros (almost never directly in MLB fwiw.) Edited October 31 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 On 10/29/2024 at 5:28 PM, caulfield12 said: Odds are higher Santander becomes another albatross contract at that age were the Sox to sign him for 3-5 years...you're certainly NOT going to see that investment from Baltimore. That's the whole point of having a productive farm system. Yes, also Santander might be really bad defensively relatively soon so if his bat Slips a little you have another expensive mediocre DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 There's a lottery? WTF. Did not know that. Well f*** my plan then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 7 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: There's a lottery? WTF. Did not know that. Well f*** my plan then. Yeah, it sucks bad for the Sox who will likely suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 On 10/29/2024 at 5:14 PM, chitownsportsfan said: Sign nobody and tank for #1 would be my plan. If you tender vaughn it's simply as trade bait and to fill a roster spot with a 0-1 WAR type that will be a tank commander. Good plan to make the Sox irrelevant forever. Three 100 loss seasons in a row and counting. Wowsie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 On 10/30/2024 at 7:56 AM, bobbydanks said: building through the draft is such an asinine opinion that even in sports that don't have 400s player in their system it's never worked (that one weird hockey year doesnt count). i know you're right 100% of the time in MLB the Show but real life aint that bro somehow tanking became popular especially with fans who love the unknown prospects. Then those unknowns grow up (Moncadas, Eloys, lol) and join the big league club and stink. Wait til next year is one of the best sayings in sports history. Cause tank teams entice their own fans by the promise of a great future with guys 2-3 years from making the big league roster. It's a good excuse for the team being as bad as the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 On 10/29/2024 at 4:26 PM, Dick Allen said: They got the White Sox for 13 games. If it were 6, they were probably screwed. That's a fact. The Royals were struggling almost every time they played the Sox, boatraced the Sox to get back on track and regain confidence. By the time the playoffs started they actually had a good set of pitchers, not quite enuf hitters to go with Salvy and Witt. In fact the Royals lineup was not much better than the Sox lineup. It was lousy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 On 10/29/2024 at 10:09 AM, tray said: Sox need several players including a DH that hits 30+ HR. I suggested Santander as one possibility. Spend some money and the team could conceivably get back to .500. Vaughn might be able to get up to 30 if he keeps trying to lift and pull rather than find a gap now and then for a 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 46 minutes ago, greg775 said: Good plan to make the Sox irrelevant forever. Three 100 loss seasons in a row and counting. Wowsie. Outline a realistic plan which wins us more than 62 games next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Outline a realistic plan which wins us more than 62 games next year. I posted one somewhere. We have a great manager so give him 2 veteran free agent starters at 15 mill a year; one good reliever to add to our young group of pen candidates for 10 mill a year; add one power hitting outfielder at 15-20 mill a year and add a second baseman with a clue for say, 8 mill a year. Bring up Monte and Echo and u give the manager a chance to pull a Quatraro. Go with Sosa at third I guess unless u wanna spend even more and find a good 3B. All my plan takes is good evaluation of the free agent market and Jerry not wanting to lose 100 again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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