zisk Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 After this debacle, O's might finally be willing to trade for Crochet. It's nice to keep your best prospects, but missing your window of opportunity could get a GM fired. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 41 minutes ago, zisk said: After this debacle, O's might finally be willing to trade for Crochet. It's nice to keep your best prospects, but missing your window of opportunity could get a GM fired. That would be about the dumbest thing the new ownership group could possibly do. They aren't going to change managers, they are certainly not going to move on from a heretofore successful GM at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 They could try the "spend money" thing. Getz continues to prove he can be easily duped in trades and get more Vargas caliber players. Trade is a bad word for Sox fans unless you like a decade or two of bad baseball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 They’re gonna be in a tough spot losing a few key dudes and will have to spend or trade or have another first round exit if they’re lucky… We will suck again though so who’s counting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/10/04/orioles-payroll-david-rubenstein-mike-elias/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/08/2024-25-free-agent-power-rankings-late-august.html Looks like Burnes Snell Fried and Flaherty are the O's options. Flaherty you can automatically cross off the list. Snell is so damned erratic and doesn't go deep enough in games. Max Fried seems to be the likeliest target. Proven playoff winner this week's loss to SD notwithstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 4 hours ago, kitekrazy said: They could try the "spend money" thing. Getz continues to prove he can be easily duped in trades and get more Vargas caliber players. Trade is a bad word for Sox fans unless you like a decade or two of bad baseball. Are you trying to get that line sponsored or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 The Orioles have 3 in the Top 30 prospects and some surveys have them in Top10. I would prefer resigning Crochet but if he Sox prefer trading him the Oriols and also Red Sox need a number 1 and have a bunch of Top 50 prospects. Like the Orioles, the Red Sox keep their top prospect this year but now maybe they will trade via some of their prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Crochet would not have been a #1 on Baltimore or Boston and I doubt he would have pitched in the series for Baltimore. Maybe if they forced a game 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 29 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: Crochet would not have been a #1 on Baltimore or Boston and I doubt he would have pitched in the series for Baltimore. Maybe if they forced a game 3. We're talking about 2025 . Did you miss that 2024 is over for those teams ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: We're talking about 2025 . Did you miss that 2024 is over for those teams ? Yep. Burnes is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: We're talking about 2025 . Did you miss that 2024 is over for those teams ? So are they losing their top three pitchers this offseason? Edited October 5 by FloydBannister1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 5 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: So are they losing their top pitchers this offseason? Orioles' current #1 is Eflin or Grayson Rodriguez if healthy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 3 hours ago, SCCWS said: The Orioles have 3 in the Top 30 prospects and some surveys have them in Top10. I would prefer resigning Crochet but if he Sox prefer trading him the Oriols and also Red Sox need a number 1 and have a bunch of Top 50 prospects. Like the Orioles, the Red Sox keep their top prospect this year but now maybe they will trade via some of their prospects. I think more teams hold on to their real prospects. With an injury prone league when a major player is out you need someone to fill the spot that gets a short audition at the big leagues. It's a good way to evaluate their younger players. I just don't trust the Sox with a good organization's prospects. The coaching isn't there and never was. Interesting to hear AJ talking about the Sox organization when it comes to other prospects thinking if they were in the Sox organization they could make it quicker to the big leagues. The downside is losing service time and could be closer to a DFA than the big leagues unless you find another easily duped GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 5 hours ago, PaleAleSox said: Are you trying to get that line sponsored or something? Said every fan with a cheapass owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Orioles' current #1 is Eflin or Grayson Rodriguez if healthy... I’m not sure Crochet is an upgrade. Maybe?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 9 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: I’m not sure Crochet is an upgrade. Maybe?? Depends if you believe in fWAR for pitchers...Crochet wins that in a runaway, and Eflin is at an unaffordable $18 million for essentially a 2/3 starter most seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 (edited) 16 hours ago, caulfield12 said: That would be about the dumbest thing the new ownership group could possibly do. They aren't going to change managers, they are certainly not going to move on from a heretofore successful GM at this point. Getz is a dope. No doubt. But if you quit trading, you'll lose Crochet for a draft pick in 2 years anyway. When you have something great like GC, the competition will be stiff. Almost anyone can play a royal flush. Edited October 5 by zisk add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 7 hours ago, Quin said: Exactly. The best thing that could have happened was the Orioles getting embarrassed right out of the postseason. It ensured that those Orioles fans wouldn’t come back to this board, because they know we would lick their tears. But now we have another Orioles trade thread that will open the door for their return. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 6 hours ago, FloydBannister1983 said: …I doubt he would have pitched in the series for Baltimore. Maybe if they forced a game 3. Rrrrriiiigght Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 52 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: Rrrrriiiigght Who would he have replaced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Yea, lets not try and bring those trolls back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) At least they can be sent away saying we wouldn't take Holliday or Mayo alone for Crochet. The report will be that he's not even worth Hjerstad. Edited October 5 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) 11 hours ago, FloydBannister1983 said: Crochet would not have been a #1 on Baltimore or Boston and I doubt he would have pitched in the series for Baltimore. Maybe if they forced a game 3. They won’t have to worry about that next season if they don’t make a number of good moves this offseason because they won’t even make the playoffs Edited October 6 by JUSTgottaBELIEVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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