Balta1701 Posted Saturday at 02:37 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:37 AM Hard to win a 5 game series when the last time you scored is the second inning of game 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Saturday at 02:39 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 02:39 AM (edited) Kind of anticlimatic after Games 2-3 but the Dodgers were supposed to be the best team in baseball this year, just that nobody expected pitching to carry them these last two games. Ohtani just 4 games away from the World Series now...MLB must now be praying it's against the Yankees but who knows what those pesky Mets will do. Hard to imagine a NY team AND Steve Cohen would be the "underdog" casual fans are rooting for. Edited Saturday at 02:40 AM by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted Saturday at 02:44 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:44 AM 27 minutes ago, Snopek said: Fortunately for the offense, all the Padres fans will remember is Dylan Cease pitching bad. Padres fans on twitter so pissed at Cease now that they’ve lost the series (and they lost 2 of the 3 games he started). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Saturday at 02:51 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 02:51 AM 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Padres fans on twitter so pissed at Cease now that they’ve lost the series (and they lost 2 of the 3 games he started). They were quite fortunate the bullpen held up in G3. 25 innings in a row without mounting a semblance of an offensive attack should get you bounced. And Cease never should have been pushed into a short rest start in the first place, that's on Preller/Shildt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted Saturday at 03:15 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:15 AM Dude in my friend group is very much "I follow the popular sports star," type guy. Like, BIG Cleveland fan during Lebron's second stint (now an LA fan) and suddenly a huge Dodgers fan (this is the first year he has ever cared about baseball). We've got lifelong Mets fans in our chat and he goes "anyone going to Flushing to see Ohtani???" He's loaded and can afford it, but he's definitely pushing it with people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted Saturday at 03:15 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:15 AM 32 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Padres fans on twitter so pissed at Cease now that they’ve lost the series (and they lost 2 of the 3 games he started). Twitter is where all the rational sports homies hang out. Drew Thorpe would have won the series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Saturday at 04:22 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:22 AM Maybe Ohtani shouldn't be a leadoff hitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Saturday at 06:24 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 06:24 AM (edited) Our number one pitcher Joe Musgrove is out until 2026 Stuck with Bogaerts until 2040 Kim not signing with us as Boras is the agent Machado looks like he is aging rapidly Cronenworth has been abysmal at the plate for 2+ years Dodgers have all of their star starting pitchers coming back next year who were hurt and this relief staff that made us look like the White Sox Ohtani will pitch next year and be even better at the plate Done. Check back in April when hope springs eternal fan post from gaslampball.com https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterchawaga/2024/07/01/125-billion-commitments-drive-urgency-for-padres-at-trade-deadline/ Those figures mean that, as of now, the Padres rank 15th in spending this season but are currently on the hook for MLB’s largest payrolls in 2027, 2028, 2029 and 2030. But the productive windows for most of those players appear to be closing quickly and this could be one of the final chances to capitalize on the commitment. https://sports.yahoo.com/san-diego-padres-2024-offseason-preview-what-needs-to-happen-for-the-padres-to-keep-up-with-the-dodgers-in-the-nl-west-024114746.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9zcG9ydHMueWFob28uY29tL21sYi8_Z3VjY291bnRlcj0x&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJNnd9IR-M7GBMBizvAKvmzyYb8wyY7wN3AdJIW_fxdZLXgLanWeiMcF_FF9ZKLsNi6ju-V2LKaPlPw1xcepjFofXMsqXhBE4Dcdw-bCenpCiTa1cdGG6_DtpJA95x9BC7nYyji9_QTciR3x7iZohq4MHLnCJLgy6ALaykScJuDZ Edited Saturday at 06:35 AM by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Saturday at 06:41 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 06:41 AM 4 years/$28M (2021-24), plus 2025 mutual option signed by San Diego as a free agent from South Korea 12/20 may earn additional $4M in performance bonuses based on plate appearances 21:$5M, 22:$6M, 23:$7M, 24:$8M, 25:mutual option $2M buyout (2022-25 figures are estimates) There's a mutual option on HaSeong Kim, so guessing he's MOST likely to elect FA with Adames his main FA competition at SS, and pretty sure Gleyber Torres...but he is going to be coming off a major shoulder injury/surgery. Bogaerts at this stage in his career is now much better off playing 2B rather than SS everyday. Doesn't even say the amount of the option, logically feels like it would be $9 million, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted Saturday at 06:47 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:47 AM Any way Dodger manager is fired if they don't make World Series? If they don't win WS? Sox should wait for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted Saturday at 10:35 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:35 AM 7 hours ago, Quin said: Twitter is where all the rational sports homies hang out. Drew Thorpe would have won the series. If anything, it showed how much they missed Musgrove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caulfield12 Posted Saturday at 02:06 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 02:06 PM Even with Machado and Tatis on the White Sox today with their existing contracts…which is pretty much impossible to imagine JR giving ONE $340 million extension, what would their record have been this year? Let’s throw in Zack Wheeler as well. $766 million total contract dollars…or about half the Padres’ remaining debt load through 2040. 12.2 fWAR gives them a 53-109 overall record. And a non-Grifol manager that has them even with their Pythagorean? Up to 60-102…or four games better than the 2023 Royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted Saturday at 02:08 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:08 PM 3 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: If anything, it showed how much they missed Musgrove Agree, that was a big loss. But again, while Cease was obviously not good, he is not “public enemy number one” no matter how hard you try willing it into existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM 10 hours ago, Quin said: Twitter is where all the rational sports homies hang out. Drew Thorpe would have won the series. Thorpe would have prevented the 24 inning scoreless streak and you can’t convince me otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Saturday at 02:35 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:35 PM 29 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Even with Machado and Tatis on the White Sox today with their existing contracts…which is pretty much impossible to imagine JR giving ONE $340 million extension, what would their record have been this year? Let’s throw in Zack Wheeler as well. $766 million total contract dollars…or about half the Padres’ remaining debt load through 2040. 12.2 fWAR gives them a 53-109 overall record. And a non-Grifol manager that has them even with their Pythagorean? Up to 60-102…or four games better than the 2023 Royals. You don’t need to cope this hard it’s ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Saturday at 03:39 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 03:39 PM 1 hour ago, Snopek said: Thorpe would have prevented the 24 inning scoreless streak and you can’t convince me otherwise. These arguments go round and round,.. No way SD makes the postseason without Cease. Was it worth losing Thorpe and Zavala and Iriarte? Well it just might have saved Preller's job...SD has 2025 and maybe 2026 before they really start running into budgeting/payroll issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Saturday at 04:19 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 04:19 PM Poor Benetti stuck doing Washington at Iowa while his Tigers are going to start in forty minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Saturday at 05:10 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:10 PM 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Even with Machado and Tatis on the White Sox today with their existing contracts…which is pretty much impossible to imagine JR giving ONE $340 million extension, what would their record have been this year? Let’s throw in Zack Wheeler as well. $766 million total contract dollars…or about half the Padres’ remaining debt load through 2040. 12.2 fWAR gives them a 53-109 overall record. And a non-Grifol manager that has them even with their Pythagorean? Up to 60-102…or four games better than the 2023 Royals. LOL! Once again baseball is not a predictable sport. Some players do better when they are surrounded by talent. Of course when your farm system is nothing but a future DFA list I could see that. Yet do those players pay for themselves by attendance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted Saturday at 05:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:14 PM 3 hours ago, Snopek said: Agree, that was a big loss. But again, while Cease was obviously not good, he is not “public enemy number one” no matter how hard you try willing it into existence. this Padres fan thinks so and no it’s not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Saturday at 05:18 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:18 PM 10 hours ago, greg775 said: Any way Dodger manager is fired if they don't make World Series? If they don't win WS? Sox should wait for him? The missing component is your farm system playing the way the set by the manager. You can't have 4-5 different philosophies and expect to win. Players should have a better sense of fundamentals instead of hoping they get fixed in spring training. It's always been the Sox weakness in every part of the game. If a player can only hit homeruns, can't run these bases, catch a baseball then you better be an Ohtani at the plate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Saturday at 05:38 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:38 PM 3 hours ago, Snopek said: Agree, that was a big loss. But again, while Cease was obviously not good, he is not “public enemy number one” no matter how hard you try willing it into existence. People fail to realize he's not use to facing hitters in the NL. That can run both ways. I get it that fans are upset but their team was not a distant second to the Dodgers. The came close to winning the division. Who knows how it would have played out in a 7 game series. If Cease were a White Sox this season I bet his era would in the upper 4s. With such a bad pen how many runs would be assigned to him along with horrible defense? He's still a young pitcher and lacked postseason experience. Padre fans should be thankful every day JR is not their owner. You would see White Flag trade 2024 or White Flag offseason 2025. (remained to be seen) Yes they are the Dodger's b**** but how many years were the Sox the Twin's b**** and then ne a distant 2 or rd place team. Then there was 2022 where they quit against Cleveland. While ti can't be measure I always thought the Sox were a mentally weak organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted Saturday at 05:55 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:55 PM 38 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: this Padres fan thinks so and no it’s not me lol the same Padres fan that also wants to get rid of Machado Side note: I’m glad that’s not you. That’s the timeline of a highly unstable person 😬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Saturday at 06:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:05 PM I don't have the more expensive cable to watch the game. I'm do have a station where it is televised in Spanish. I'd listen to the radio feed if it was Benetti. Getting rid of a Nat'l TV broadcaster was just another middle finger by Jerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted Saturday at 06:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:06 PM 12 minutes ago, Snopek said: lol the same Padres fan that also wants to get rid of Machado Side note: I’m glad that’s not you. That’s the timeline of a highly unstable person 😬 https://friarsonbase.com/manny-machado-fernando-tatis-jr-get-absolutely-dragged-on-social-media-after-padres-flameout-01ja050cx9dg machado is getting torched on social media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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