WhiteSox2023 Posted yesterday at 02:28 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:28 AM 11 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said: That’s disappointing Not really too disappointing when you realize that this will likely just be the bridge manager to when the Sox are able to get back to being a .500 team. And if they somehow strike gold with a competent manager, they can always try to extend him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey21 Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM 1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said: Skip Schumaker is the first name Chuck mentions here, so maybe they're the final five? Skip Schumaker or Will Venable please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted yesterday at 04:10 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:10 AM 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Not really too disappointing when you realize that this will likely just be the bridge manager to when the Sox are able to get back to being a .500 team. And if they somehow strike gold with a competent manager, they can always try to extend him. If the Sox are looking for a bridge manager, they went about this the wrong way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted yesterday at 06:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 06:17 AM 2 hours ago, Boopa1219 said: If the Sox are looking for a bridge manager, they went about this the wrong way I’m not quite sure what you mean. None of the rumored remaining candidates are highly lauded managers. I believe Schumaker is the only one that has been an MLB manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted yesterday at 10:23 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:23 AM 4 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’m not quite sure what you mean. None of the rumored remaining candidates are highly lauded managers. I believe Schumaker is the only one that has been an MLB manager. We don’t know who’s going to be any good, no one knows what makes a good manager exactly. And at the same time, highly lauded managers are rarely available, and just because someone hasn’t done it before, doesn’t mean they’re going to be bad at the job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted yesterday at 10:49 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:49 AM AJ Ellis? hmm I guess I would prefer Veneble and then Ellis from those names. Glad Schumaker is out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted yesterday at 11:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:04 AM 41 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said: We don’t know who’s going to be any good, no one knows what makes a good manager exactly. And at the same time, highly lauded managers are rarely available, and just because someone hasn’t done it before, doesn’t mean they’re going to be bad at the job. While this is true, the white Sox have made a habit of hiring people who haven’t done it before that are bad at the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted yesterday at 11:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:17 AM 50 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said: We don’t know who’s going to be any good, no one knows what makes a good manager exactly. And at the same time, highly lauded managers are rarely available, and just because someone hasn’t done it before, doesn’t mean they’re going to be bad at the job. Sure, but these qualities would still describe a “bridge manager” moreso than signing an established manager like AJ Hinch when the Sox have finally built a team that they expect to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted yesterday at 11:18 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:18 AM 15 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: While this is true, the white Sox have made a habit of hiring people who haven’t done it before that are bad at the job. Both managers and now GMs. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted yesterday at 11:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:43 AM 10 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Guess what teams are #1 and #2 in MLB in terms of not swinging at balls out of the zone. A bunch of fucking nerds? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted yesterday at 12:23 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:23 PM My Skip Schumaker love is getting a TLR reality check, dagnabbit, there's always a catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted yesterday at 01:24 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:24 PM 11 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: There could be another name in the mix that hasn't been made public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted yesterday at 02:00 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:00 PM 2 hours ago, Quin said: A bunch of fucking nerds? Nerds who win a lot of playoff series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Nerds who win a lot of playoff series. Absolutely disgusting. I bet they don't even have BASEBALL MEN like master negotiator Chris Getz running their front offices. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted yesterday at 02:16 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:16 PM 52 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: There could be another name in the mix that hasn't been made public. All right everyone, go to your list of ex-Royals, find someone who would seem comically old-school about their baseball opinions. Expect the worst and there's a good chance of accuracy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM 19 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: All right everyone, go to your list of ex-Royals, find someone who would seem comically old-school about their baseball opinions. Expect the worst and there's a good chance of accuracy. Jayson Nix has Sox connections, overlapped in KC with Getz and is currently on the Angels coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted yesterday at 02:59 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:59 PM 43 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: All right everyone, go to your list of ex-Royals, find someone who would seem comically old-school about their baseball opinions. Expect the worst and there's a good chance of accuracy. I don't know about an old school approach, but Bruce Chen always handed the Sox their own ass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 03:17 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:17 PM https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-gellinger-joins-white-sox-coaching-staff He would be the most likely internal candidate outside of Sizemore…with the longest history connected to org. Health problems in recent years, where he had to take a step away for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted yesterday at 03:30 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:30 PM 17 hours ago, greg775 said: Didn't the Sox have all complete games in the 2005 World Series? Rooney's final call of the WS was literally "A ground ball, past Jenks, up the middle of the infield." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted yesterday at 03:32 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:32 PM 3 minutes ago, Iwritecode said: Rooney's final call of the WS was literally "A ground ball, past Jenks, up the middle of the infield." Mark Buehrle is 1/1 in World Series save attempts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted yesterday at 04:01 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:01 PM 17 hours ago, greg775 said: Didn't the Sox have all complete games in the 2005 World Series? ALCS is where Neal Cotts was the only guy to throw a BP inning. How in the world are you forgetting Game 3 going 13 innings? You can't be worshipping Ozzie and forgetting what is possibly the best managed game of his career. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted yesterday at 04:06 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:06 PM 4 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: While this is true, the white Sox have made a habit of hiring people who haven’t done it before that are bad at the job. And whether that's because we're hiring those that are bad at their jobs or it's just the institutional stench attached to them, no one has gone on to have a coaching career post-managing the Sox since Jerry Manual in 2003. 2024 - Grifol. Should not have been hired and may never be hired again 2022 - Cairo. Interim to end the year, never coached again 2022 - LaRussa. Should not have been hired and frankly should've stayed retired in the first place; will never manage again 2020 - Renteria. Hired as a bridge guy, never coached again 2016 - Ventura. Had to be persuaded to take it, never coached again 2011 - Don Cooper (only a few games). Never coached again after being fired in 2020 2011 - Guillen. One terrible season in Miami, then never coached again If we're looking at guys that want to start their careers, well, we don't have a great history of anyone even getting employed after we touch them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted yesterday at 04:16 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:16 PM (edited) 13 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: And whether that's because we're hiring those that are bad at their jobs or it's just the institutional stench attached to them, no one has gone on to have a coaching career post-managing the Sox since Jerry Manual in 2003. 2024 - Grifol. Should not have been hired and may never be hired again 2022 - Cairo. Interim to end the year, never coached again 2022 - LaRussa. Should not have been hired and frankly should've stayed retired in the first place; will never manage again 2020 - Renteria. Hired as a bridge guy, never coached again 2016 - Ventura. Had to be persuaded to take it, never coached again 2011 - Don Cooper (only a few games). Never coached again after being fired in 2020 2011 - Guillen. One terrible season in Miami, then never coached again If we're looking at guys that want to start their careers, well, we don't have a great history of anyone even getting employed after we touch them. There is some truth in here, but I think it’s exaggerated. Cairo is currently coaching with the Nats. Larussa won’t manage again bc he can’t. Ventura has no interest, and I suspect Coop doesn’t either. I also think Renteria could work again if he chose to. the only real, obvious guys that wanted to manage again and likely never will are Guillen and Grifol. Edited yesterday at 04:19 PM by Lyle Moooton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM 26 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: And whether that's because we're hiring those that are bad at their jobs or it's just the institutional stench attached to them, no one has gone on to have a coaching career post-managing the Sox since Jerry Manual in 2003. 2024 - Grifol. Should not have been hired and may never be hired again 2022 - Cairo. Interim to end the year, never coached again 2022 - LaRussa. Should not have been hired and frankly should've stayed retired in the first place; will never manage again 2020 - Renteria. Hired as a bridge guy, never coached again 2016 - Ventura. Had to be persuaded to take it, never coached again 2011 - Don Cooper (only a few games). Never coached again after being fired in 2020 2011 - Guillen. One terrible season in Miami, then never coached again If we're looking at guys that want to start their careers, well, we don't have a great history of anyone even getting employed after we touch them. Guillen managed in Miami after the Sox. His mouth got him fired, and probably ended his managerial career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted yesterday at 05:10 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:10 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Quin said: ALCS is where Neal Cotts was the only guy to throw a BP inning. How in the world are you forgetting Game 3 going 13 innings? You can't be worshipping Ozzie and forgetting what is possibly the best managed game of his career. In fact, wasn't Ozzie's call to the bullpen for the "wide and tall guy" in game 1? Edited yesterday at 05:11 PM by Iwritecode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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