Milkman delivers Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Feels like we are about to get a few of these notifications 59 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Let's see what he does with this, because the 2024 White Sox were very, very anti-analytics. Phil Nevin would be an "analytics guys will be locked in the corner over there and we won't talk to them because they don't like bunting" kind of hire. Pedro was very anti-analytics, despite what he said in his initial press conference, LaRussa is anti-analytics, Reinsdorf sure seems to be. It is 100% possible to "Execute change in that department" by making it smaller and less relevant. I think we all know, on some level, that it’s gonna be Nevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fielder Jones Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 3 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said: I think we all know, on some level, that it’s gonna be Nevin. i think jerry had larussa running the org when he was managing, '21, '22... all the free agents we got were LaRussa Guys in one way or another. but the last few years LaRussa's fingerprints have been less on decisionmaking than they were before..so i think the manager hire really is Getz's or at least non-Tony's Our recent moves are so weird , that frankly, they have to be Getz's...they have that mark of innocence to them lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 23 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said: i think jerry had larussa running the org when he was managing, '21, '22... all the free agents we got were LaRussa Guys in one way or another. but the last few years LaRussa's fingerprints have been less on decisionmaking than they were before..so i think the manager hire really is Getz's or at least non-Tony's Our recent moves are so weird , that frankly, they have to be Getz's...they have that mark of innocence to them lol Nevin is gonna really put this theory to the test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 5 hours ago, Falstaff said: What is the opinion of Phil Nevin getting the job? I remember him as a ballplayer, he had a decent career. Is Getz regulated to the Dollar Store for his hire? Required Qualifications: A): Will work for Jerry at below market rates. B): See A. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I am sad AJ Ellis is not considered. After reading the Soxmachine article I am fairly certain it is Nevin as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I hope that Getz ACTUALLY gets the final say... not necessarily because I distrust him less than I trust TLR, but more because it'll be a sign that there's actually a clear set of responsibilities in the decision-making process. The one thing I can forgive Hahn for is the fact that it seems like key decisions were taken out of his hands after 2020 (cough, cough, TONY). Of course he had more than his fair share of f***-ups, but I want Getz to be able to be judged exclusively on the decisions Chris Getz makes, without the benefit of the "his hands were tied" or "it was really Tony's team" doubt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Basically I think that one poster's theory of manager agent's using Heyman to drive up price of Marlins job for their clients is correct, and neither would actually work for the sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fielder Jones Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Final question of Ken Rosenthal's podcast covered our mgr search just now. Not a lot there but he talked up Nevin's good qualities and said they should go with an outside hire, not Grady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) With Skip Schumaker out my new list of the final 3 in order: #1 Grady #2 Sergio Santos #3 Albernaz #3a Phil Nevin (last resort) Edited October 28 by Falstaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 We have gotten to the red marker cross off “well, none of these guys” part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey21 Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 Welp… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 28 minutes ago, Rey21 said: Welp… Is there any reason to be obviously disappointed if we were to wind up with one of those two, based on something someone knows about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 15 hours ago, Fielder Jones said: Heyman is a known tool used by the agents. Have to look at these tweets of his in that lens Albernaz could be close to finalizing with the Marlins and Heyman is putting it out there that the Sox are interested so as to bring up his contract number with Miami this post was spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 are wil venable and craig albernaz going to accept a prescribed pitching team? Will Phil Nevin and Grady ? (yes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 So from what im gathering, Nevin is anti analytics? Considering the push for more analytics why is he even being considered then? Doesnt make any sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 A battle of two cheap bad teams. Who will win the Venable derby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 14 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I will give a sunshine thought: it's a good thing he is interviewing in person. Likely means he is ready to take on a team. White sox are barely a team tho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 53 minutes ago, reiks12 said: So from what im gathering, Nevin is anti analytics? Considering the push for more analytics why is he even being considered then? Doesnt make any sense I haven't seen any quotes, but he was WAY over league average for sac bunting and giving IBBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 hour ago, bmags said: are wil venable and craig albernaz going to accept a prescribed pitching team? Will Phil Nevin and Grady ? (yes) You can’t really do better than Bannister/Katz. And lots of GM hire the pitching and hitting coaches themselves, since they affect the entire organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 What a group of underwhelming candidates ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 10 minutes ago, Soxfest said: What a group of underwhelming candidates ugh! Who is out there that you'd like to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 2 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Who is out there that you'd like to see? Francona was out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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