hankchifan Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 On 10/12/2024 at 7:59 PM, kitekrazy said: If you've watched him lately you see the old Kopech surfacing. Getting rid of him isn't the bad part as packaging MLB players and the highlight was Vargas. No other GM could accomplish such a bad trade. I guess this is Jerry's way of getting better quicker and Getz wanting patience so he can make even more costly mistakes. How everyone forgets he was incompetent in his previous role. Getz’ trades have turned out to be mainly salary dumps as the Sox have not gotten much in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 15 hours ago, hankchifan said: Getz’ trades have turned out to be mainly salary dumps as the Sox have not gotten much in return. Salary dumps are a funny word for the Sox organization. They don't really pay anyone to begin with. Get rid of those making 25 cents over the minimum wage. Plus it's lame ass excuse to dismiss the incompetence of Getz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 On 10/12/2024 at 5:43 AM, 46DidIt said: That’s some quality gaslighting there. Why you hate Dick Allen so much 46and2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 On 10/16/2024 at 7:07 PM, kitekrazy said: Salary dumps are a funny word for the Sox organization. They don't really pay anyone to begin with. Get rid of those making 25 cents over the minimum wage. Plus it's lame ass excuse to dismiss the incompetence of Getz. They do pay people, at times, but they pretty much always turn out to be disasters because they never pay for proven top talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 They DO pay for top talent. …. just never in their prime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 21 minutes ago, JoeC said: They DO pay for top talent. …. just never in their prime. Embarrassing that Danks Dunn Grandal Benintendi deals will be cited as main reasons we can't ever have nice things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted Monday at 01:18 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:18 AM On 10/11/2024 at 11:31 PM, Quin said: Dodgers paid a steep price for Kopech and Edman, but sometimes you have to give up a talent of Miguel Vargas' level. Chris Getz is a fucking moron. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Monday at 02:09 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:09 AM 51 minutes ago, Quin said: Chris Getz is a fucking moron. Or a patsy...placeholder. Or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted Monday at 03:28 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:28 AM 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Or a patsy...placeholder. Or both. Nah. Just a complete fucking moron. Other GMs are licking their lips getting ready for Crochet and Robert negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Monday at 04:14 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:14 AM 45 minutes ago, Quin said: Nah. Just a complete fucking moron. Other GMs are licking their lips getting ready for Crochet and Robert negotiations. Will probably give away meaningful talent that eventually evolves into big league regulars and/or send a significant cash subsidy getting rid of Robert and/or Benintendi...or the already-infamous Crochet/Benintendi predicted move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted Monday at 03:56 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:56 PM I thing kopech is a good example of how little trust the white sox had with their players to influence changes on the field. The players are also invested in their careers, and are probably aware of the much better resources that exist outside the org. Many of their best player development transformations happened by coincidence or thru outside influence. That said, I was horribly wrong on vargas (I keep violating my own rule of downgrading any player the white sox acquire by the simple logic that the white sox acquiring them means they were worse than I thought). But the logic was there was very little strong position player prospect movement at the deadline. A lot of the 'fleecing' was around pitching prospects, which I'd had enough of. Of course...then there was the non-idiot teams who took the 'lesser' orioles prospect. that said...i've always hated kopech since 2020. Him deciding to try after 4 years...doesn't make me like him more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Monday at 04:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:18 PM 23 minutes ago, bmags said: I thing kopech is a good example of how little trust the white sox had with their players to influence changes on the field. The players are also invested in their careers, and are probably aware of the much better resources that exist outside the org. Many of their best player development transformations happened by coincidence or thru outside influence. That said, I was horribly wrong on vargas (I keep violating my own rule of downgrading any player the white sox acquire by the simple logic that the white sox acquiring them means they were worse than I thought). But the logic was there was very little strong position player prospect movement at the deadline. A lot of the 'fleecing' was around pitching prospects, which I'd had enough of. Of course...then there was the non-idiot teams who took the 'lesser' orioles prospect. that said...i've always hated kopech since 2020. Him deciding to try after 4 years...doesn't make me like him more. I remember hearing someone tell similar stories about Carlos Rodon too, didn't really try until his non-tender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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