bmags Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 8 minutes ago, bear_brian said: As far as I understand, any buyer and associated move from Chicago would have to be approved by the other owners. I cannot believe the other owners would abandon Chicago to the Cubs. Owners are extremely deferential. They would never try to overrule another owners desire to screw over a fanbase for profit lest it be used against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted October 16 Author Share Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Rusty said: He’s not open to selling. It’s a media plant to further threaten to move the Nashville so he can further his attempt to extort the taxpayers for public funding on a new stadium. I'm thinking it's either a stadium ploy (considering his past history) or a public notice for the "serious" bidders to come calling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 No not like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Okay so doing some digging I am pretty damn confident that this is a ploy by Reinsdorf for stadium money. Either that or I'm in the cope stage. This Stewart group is an absolute fraud. As a Nashville outlet said a few months ago: "Most media outlets in Nashville never seem to ask this crucial question when reporting on the baseball effort: Where is the money going to come from? Music City Baseball has been looking for a general partner, aka an owner with deep pockets, for five years." I doubt they found one suddenly. They made laughable attempts to buy the both the Marlins and Rays. Seem you may not even call them attempts. Both franchises were happy to leverage their "interest" into other things. From the Stewart perspective, it seems the plan is that this "interest" somehow legitimizes them. Which brings us as to why Dave Stewart? He has no meaningful money. It appears their plan is to wait it out for expansion and be given a franchise on the relatively cheap while hiding behind "minority-led" group by bullying MLB that they need minority ownership. Of course a lot of the people in the group are not minorities so you can't make them the face. I doubt even this plan works but for the potential ROI, I guess it's worth a shot for them. As the above article states, they do have a lot of cool branding and marketing scheme, just no money to their names. Now hopefully this post doesn't age horribly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 12 minutes ago, Green Line said: Wow go figure, the people who demanded he sell might get what they want. Hope you're all happy! You're such a bootlicker that King George could have taxed you 100% for tea and you'd tell fellow colonists "at least we have tea!" 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, Saufley said: It won't work this time. Doesn't stop him from trying though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Okay so doing some digging I am pretty damn confident that this is a ploy by Reinsdorf for stadium money. Either that or I'm in the cope stage. This Stewart group is an absolute fraud. As a Nashville outlet said a few months ago: "Most media outlets in Nashville never seem to ask this crucial question when reporting on the baseball effort: Where is the money going to come from? Music City Baseball has been looking for a general partner, aka an owner with deep pockets, for five years." I doubt they found one suddenly. They made laughable attempts to buy the both the Marlins and Rays. Seem you may not even call them attempts. Both franchises were happy to leverage their "interest" into other things. From the Stewart perspective, it seems the plan is that this "interest" somehow legitimizes them. Which brings us as to why Dave Stewart? He has no meaningful money. It appears their plan is to wait it out for expansion and be given a franchise on the relatively cheap while hiding behind "minority-led" group by bullying MLB that they need minority ownership. Of course a lot of the people in the group are not minorities so you can't make them the face. I doubt even this plan works but for the potential ROI, I guess it's worth a shot for them. As the above article states, they do have a lot of cool branding and marketing scheme, just no money to their names. Now hopefully this post doesn't age horribly. yeah makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Call the bluff. If he goes through with it and Stewart moves the team to Nashville, that's good. Now they can deal with this cursed fucking franchise. And it would let us start fresh. Give us a new expansion team with an ambitious owner and give them the opportunity to do the 78 project and do it right. I think I could get over losing the name and history of the White Sox if it meant a better future. As long as there is a team on the southside that hates the Cubs, I would be happy. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Doesn't stop him from trying though. Let him try and fail. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Okay so doing some digging I am pretty damn confident that this is a ploy by Reinsdorf for stadium money. Either that or I'm in the cope stage. This Stewart group is an absolute fraud. As a Nashville outlet said a few months ago: "Most media outlets in Nashville never seem to ask this crucial question when reporting on the baseball effort: Where is the money going to come from? Music City Baseball has been looking for a general partner, aka an owner with deep pockets, for five years." I doubt they found one suddenly. They made laughable attempts to buy the both the Marlins and Rays. Seem you may not even call them attempts. Both franchises were happy to leverage their "interest" into other things. From the Stewart perspective, it seems the plan is that this "interest" somehow legitimizes them. Which brings us as to why Dave Stewart? He has no meaningful money. It appears their plan is to wait it out for expansion and be given a franchise on the relatively cheap while hiding behind "minority-led" group by bullying MLB that they need minority ownership. Of course a lot of the people in the group are not minorities so you can't make them the face. I doubt even this plan works but for the potential ROI, I guess it's worth a shot for them. As the above article states, they do have a lot of cool branding and marketing scheme, just no money to their names. Now hopefully this post doesn't age horribly. I had to Google if Dave Stewart had any substantial money. Turns out he doesn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greg775 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 8 minutes ago, Saufley said: It won't work this time. I agree. This time the climate is different. We've accepted a lot of b.s. going on in our country. The majority of Illinois will accept the Sox leaving. They'll just say, 'Geez guys get a grip. We already have one team in Chicago; let's not get greedy. Give somebody else a team. No big deal. We got a team." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, GenericUserName said: Call the bluff. If he goes through with it and Stewart moves the team to Nashville, that's good. Now they can deal with this cursed fucking franchise. And it would let us start fresh. Give us a new expansion team with an ambitious owner and give them the opportunity to do the 78 project and do it right. I think I could get over losing the name and history of the White Sox if it meant a better future. As long as there is a team on the southside that hates the Cubs, I would be happy. If I'm not mistaken, Cubs would gain the ability to block any expansion team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 43 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Same here, I don’t want groups led by so and so, I want a guy or gal who has tons of money and isn’t afraid to spend it while keeping them in Chicago. The Atlanta Braves are a literal corporation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 minute ago, Quin said: If I'm not mistaken, Cubs would gain the ability to block any expansion team. I don't know all the background, but I know St. Louis sued the NFL when the Rams left. If there was a possibility of Chicago doing the same, we could use that as leverage to put in a clause to allow another Chicago team without the Cubs approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, Quin said: If I'm not mistaken, Cubs would gain the ability to block any expansion team. Unless the rights were preserved as a part of a move/sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 7 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I'm thinking it's either a stadium ploy (considering his past history) or a public notice for the "serious" bidders to come calling. Considering that only a few short weeks ago JR was publicly stating that he had no interest in selling, and with the very recent 78 pitch shenanigans, the timing of this article/leak/plant very much feels like the next chapter in the continual stadium funding ploy. If he really were interested in selling, he has to know the billion dollar price tag of his franchise, and there's no way a greedy SOB like Jerry sells for anything less than top dollar. Which floating a name like Dave Stewart makes this feel very much like unserious bluster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Also back to my original theory, I wonder if Hodson is still the money in this deal if they were already the ones who bought a large minority share recently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaleAleSox Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 If they move I would be done with baseball forever. It’d be heartbreaking. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 17 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I'm thinking it's either a stadium ploy (considering his past history) or a public notice for the "serious" bidders to come calling. If it’s serious, look for evidence that other bidders are getting involved. There’s zero friggin chance a group led by Dave Stewart would really be the top bidder, or would make such a strong offer to preempt getting shopped around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 f***’em, move the team. End of us this misery. Do I want an actual owner who is interested in fielding a competitive team in Chicago? Of course, but that seems like such an impossible ask at this point, I’d be fine with them moving and let me be a true “fan free agent” 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Tony said: f***’em, move the team. End of us this misery. Do I want an actual owner who is interested in fielding a competitive team in Chicago? Of course, but that seems like such an impossible ask at this point, I’d be fine with them moving and let me be a true “fan free agent” Nothing is stopping you from doing that now. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Where is the lipman. We need someone with inside sources 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 minute ago, PaleAleSox said: Nothing is stopping you from doing that now. There are plenty of reasons. I’m a fan of the White Sox, not the owner. Jerry Reinsdorf isn’t the White Sox. And at this point, I’m not ready to let Jerry make me root for another franchise. If he decides to actually sell the team to an owner that has no interest in keeping the Sox in Chicago, then I’ll feel OK moving on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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