ewokpelts Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 On 10/23/2024 at 11:36 AM, Dick Allen said: Yeah, the issue is location. LMAO. he's doing reinsdorf's bidding. location was just fine when they sold almost 3 million tickets without the dan ryan operating AT ALL for two full seasons. yes, there was a world series halo, but that team also won 90 games. and the 90 loss team in 2007? 2.67 million fans with the same lack of superhighway access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 On 10/23/2024 at 12:28 PM, whitesoxfan99 said: And don't really generate jobs (and almost all the jobs they do generate are low wage and seasonal)? these projects where private business gets public money always tout the jobs. the short term construction jobs plus the "permanent" jobs after the fact. yes, sox park has more seasonal day of game staff than full time posts, but 1000 or more people working is still better than none. in the case of the 78 proposal, we're also looking at the halo effect of related business on the site providing jobs as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) 4 hours ago, ewokpelts said: these projects where private business gets public money always tout the jobs. the short term construction jobs plus the "permanent" jobs after the fact. yes, sox park has more seasonal day of game staff than full time posts, but 1000 or more people working is still better than none. in the case of the 78 proposal, we're also looking at the halo effect of related business on the site providing jobs as well. What about the jobs lost in Bridgeport. The jobs thing has always been a farce. They are creating very few new jobs. Just transferring from one location to another. There are literally over 100 companies in Chicago alone that employ more people and create more revenue than the White Sox. Shouldn’t they be entitled to new rent free offices built by the state? Enough with JR. There was a question on the ballots in one of the wards this past election asking about using public funds for a Bears stadium. The voters gave it an overwhelming no. And that’s the Bears, far more popular than the White Sox, and they would actually contribute $2 billion. Politicians going against their constituents wishes aren’t politicians much longer. JR and the McCaskeys are going to have to find another way. Edited November 7 by Dick Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 What Dick Allen said and then some. Right now, all JR cares about is a new stadium and his new TV network. Building a winning team? Not so much. And all this nonsense about "being open to selling"? That was nothing but crap. When will the team be a contender? No one knows and that includes the White Sox. Fans are being scammed as always. What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 9 hours ago, ewokpelts said: he's doing reinsdorf's bidding. location was just fine when they sold almost 3 million tickets without the dan ryan operating AT ALL for two full seasons. yes, there was a world series halo, but that team also won 90 games. and the 90 loss team in 2007? 2.67 million fans with the same lack of superhighway access. This has never been about drawing fans when winning. We all know Sox fans are a bandwagon lot who show up for blue skies. Jerry is looking north at Wrigley for a place whose game day experiences are so powerful that people don't just show up when times are good, but still show up when things are bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrittBurnsFan Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This has never been about drawing fans when winning. We all know Sox fans are a bandwagon lot who show up for blue skies. Jerry is looking north at Wrigley for a place whose game day experiences are so powerful that people don't just show up when times are good, but still show up when things are bad. True...but that could be said about every owner...that is the ideal state for an organization. White Sox fans aren't built that way or at least we haven't been giving a reason to show up for a bad ball club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 2 minutes ago, BrittBurnsFan said: True...but that could be said about every owner...that is the ideal state for an organization. White Sox fans aren't built that way or at least we haven't been giving a reason to show up for a bad ball club! Which is why the ballpark village concept would appeal to Jerry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 23 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: This has never been about drawing fans when winning. We all know Sox fans are a bandwagon lot who show up for blue skies. Jerry is looking north at Wrigley for a place whose game day experiences are so powerful that people don't just show up when times are good, but still show up when things are bad. Maybe the Sox would have a deeper fan base if the actually tried to build one. And Cub fans? They're idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 50 minutes ago, Highland said: Maybe the Sox would have a deeper fan base if the actually tried to build one. And Cub fans? They're idiots. Yet one of the biggest and most loyal fanbases in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Yet one of the biggest and most loyal fanbases in the world. For the same reason the Braves are one of the few franchises with a viable RSN model after all the fall out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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