TaylorStSox Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 10 minutes ago, brijames1957 said: Maybe he took the job knowing that JR is planning on selling the team to a billionaire media mogul who will outspend every current owner to build a winning team. This isn't the way baseball works anymore. Teams don't let their players get to FA. You can't just buy a team, and it hasn't been like that for a while. Every year people complain about the FA class for a reason. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Considering Venable has turned down multiple jobs in the past, I would imagine he wouldn't accept this one if he didn't have considerable autonomy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 My simple take: On paper, this is a step in the right direction. Now show us more. I look forward to being yelled at about this opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 12 minutes ago, Quin said: I love that even this hire is creating division. The division seems to be between, "It's a good hire, and I'm happy", and "Maybe it's a good hire, but you shouldn't be happy". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 9 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Considering Venable has turned down multiple jobs in the past, I would imagine he wouldn't accept this one if he didn't have considerable autonomy. We don't know if that is true. He did turn down an interview with the Mets last year. He may have been offered the Marlins job, but speculation is the Cleveland guy has a history with their GM. I think he was the best available, so that's good. The White Sox should be offering a ton of autonomy, but who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, FloydBannister1983 said: Is it too early to start a "Fire Will Venable" thread? Pretty sure the “Fire Grifol” thread was started shortly after he was hired so have at it 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: The division seems to be between, "It's a good hire, and I'm happy", and "Maybe it's a good hire, but you shouldn't be happy". Also between "It's a good hire and I'm happy" and "I hate that you're skeptical and I'm incapable of ignoring your skepticism." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: The division seems to be between, "It's a good hire, and I'm happy", and "Maybe it's a good hire, but you shouldn't be happy". People are telling others that they shouldn't be happy? All I’m seeing is people saying they aren’t really sure they should believe this is gonna work because, you know, it’s currently the worst organization in the entire league, by a long shot. My happiness or dissatisfaction with this hire does not impact anyone else. Where are others telling people that they shouldn’t be happy? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Controversial take, at least by internet standards: I don't have an opinion on this hiring yet. There. I said it. Decidedly undecided. I hope that's not too controversial. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, JoeC said: Controversial take, at least by internet standards: I don't have an opinion on this hiring yet. There. I said it. Decidedly undecided. I hope that's not too controversial. Leave soxtalk dot com now. Never return 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 https://www.fansfirstsports.com/sox-populi/white-sox-managerial-search-update-did-chris-getz-his-man-will-venable-texas-rangers/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Imagine being OK with a GM saying we're going to be horrible for at least my first 3 years. So bad that conversations of moving and etc come into the world. Then imagine celebrating a move that guy made. I have no interest in watching this team tank and pocket cash for another three years. You know what would change the fucking narrative? Signing Juan Soto given the zero payroll obligations. Pretending that Chris Getz is turning the tides because he got some manager here is laughable. Looking beyond what we know already about the ineptitude of the White Sox and how bad the last three years have been, the thing with this hire...if these are true is that He was the heir apparent to Bochy in Texas Turned down the Mets last off season leaving Cohen out of the conversation, Sterns is guy you want to work for Has worked with Theo - best baseball mind around and would assume a mentor Resume that checks all major boxes His connections and resume lead me to hope there was a plan laid out to him as to why this job is worth taking. Sure it is all pie in the sky s%*# that I look at and hope I can be a fan again but unlike Grifol I don't have to squint really hard to like this hire. Yes there are only 30 of these jobs but I think we can assume he was in a position like Ben Johnson with the Lions in that he can have his pick and he isn't risking it without a plan. Is there a sale? A move? A new Stadium? Why would he take this job? The Bears job will be highly sought after, the White Sox, not so much. Maybe I just want to fan again 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 40 minutes ago, Snopek said: My simple take: On paper, this is a step in the right direction. Now show us more. I look forward to being yelled at about this opinion. I don’t see how ANYONE could have any issue with this statement. It’s simply factual. A.) It was a nice hire. B.) We need to be shown more. Why would anyone yell at ya man? 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 With the hiring of Venable, I will have to adjust the 2025 White Sox win total to 117. (Sox get swept in ALDS) The Chicago White Sox will be the only team in MLB history to set 2 modern day records in back-to-back seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, Falstaff said: With the hiring of Venable, I will have to adjust the 2025 White Sox win total to 117. (Sox get swept in ALDS) The Chicago White Sox will be the only team in MLB history to set 2 modern day records in back-to-back seasons. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 My opinion is that we still need a lot of good players. Once we get good players I’ll probably become a fan again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 23 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Looking beyond what we know already about the ineptitude of the White Sox and how bad the last three years have been, the thing with this hire...if these are true is that He was the heir apparent to Bochy in Texas Turned down the Mets last off season leaving Cohen out of the conversation, Sterns is guy you want to work for Has worked with Theo - best baseball mind around and would assume a mentor Resume that checks all major boxes His connections and resume lead me to hope there was a plan laid out to him as to why this job is worth taking. Sure it is all pie in the sky s%*# that I look at and hope I can be a fan again but unlike Grifol I don't have to squint really hard to like this hire. Yes there are only 30 of these jobs but I think we can assume he was in a position like Ben Johnson with the Lions in that he can have his pick and he isn't risking it without a plan. Is there a sale? A move? A new Stadium? Why would he take this job? The Bears job will be highly sought after, the White Sox, not so much. Maybe I just want to fan again An obvious one is that Bruce Bochy has decided to coach until he’s 72 or 73 unless his health gives out, and that would leave him waiting several years for a job that wasn’t guaranteed to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 20 minutes ago, hi8is said: I don’t see how ANYONE could have any issue with this statement. It’s simply factual. A.) It was a nice hire. B.) We need to be shown more. Why would anyone yell at ya man? 😆 It was 80% tongue in cheek, 20% sports fans are irrational idiots (including me) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Day two take: He's our best manager since Ozzie (duck) and he's a great choice. The fact a sensational candidate would take this job with a capable GM but horrible owner means he "probably" believes in our top prospects including several "allegedly excellent" moundsmen plus Monte and Elko and some others. He probably thinks Robert and Monte are stars in the making. And he probably has a feeling the Sox in this day and age can somehow rustle together a serviceable bullpen. In short, our new skipper thinks we can sniff .500 this year then go for it all the year after. We shall see but this means a capable baseball mind senses a plan. Otherwise he'd wait for a better team to offer him. GO SOX! GO BR! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted October 30 Author Share Posted October 30 AJP hearing Sizemore staying in the organization Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melton1972 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, TaylorStSox said: Considering Venable has turned down multiple jobs in the past, I would imagine he wouldn't accept this one if he didn't have considerable autonomy. It couldn't be for the salary the Sox offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Cool! Optimistic about this one. What's left for the offseason now? Coaching changes and the Crochet trade? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Someone take the cocaine from greg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 5 hours ago, Quin said: Kudos where it's due: This registers as a good hire. For the first time since before Tony, the White Sox made a personnel move that I didn't immediately hate because it was very obviously stupid. Baby steps. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 hours ago, Tony said: I know it's your bit to take things to the extreme, but it just makes you look like a clown. Will Venable may be a good hire. Maybe he won't. None of us really know. I agree it's a positive that it isn't a former Royal or someone with close ties to La Russa, but as Ray was pointing out, it's sad the bar is low enough that excitement comes from the Sox not doing what they always do. But that's what happens when you've turned into one of the worst franchises in sports. Expectations become so low, that anything slightly different feels like a huge win. Everyone on this board hopes this is the start of a new chapter of Sox Baseball. But it's absolutely asinine to look down or judge a fan for having doubts about this organization putting in a real effort to turn this franchise into a perennial winner. But par for the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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