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10 minutes ago, brijames1957 said:

Maybe he took the job knowing that JR is planning on selling the team to a billionaire media mogul who will outspend every current owner to build a winning team.

This isn't the way baseball works anymore. Teams don't let their players get to FA. You can't just buy a team, and it hasn't been like that for a while. Every year people complain about the FA class for a reason.

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9 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:

Considering Venable has turned down multiple jobs in the past, I would imagine he wouldn't accept this one if he didn't have considerable autonomy.

We don't know if that is true. He did turn down an interview with the Mets last year. He may have been offered the Marlins job, but speculation is the Cleveland guy has a history with their GM. I think he was the best available, so that's good. The White Sox should be offering a ton of autonomy, but who knows?

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8 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

The division seems to be between, "It's a good hire, and I'm happy", and "Maybe it's a good hire, but you shouldn't be happy". 

People are telling others that they shouldn't be happy?  All I’m seeing is people saying they aren’t really sure they should believe this is gonna work because, you know, it’s currently the worst organization in the entire league, by a long shot.  My happiness or dissatisfaction with this hire does not impact anyone else.  Where are others telling people that they shouldn’t be happy?

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2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Imagine being OK with a GM saying we're going to be horrible for at least my first 3 years. So bad that conversations of moving and etc come into the world. 

Then imagine celebrating a move that guy made.

I have no interest in watching this team tank and pocket cash for another three years. 

You know what would change the fucking narrative? Signing Juan Soto given the zero payroll obligations. Pretending that Chris Getz is turning the tides because he got some manager here is laughable. 

Looking beyond what we know already about the ineptitude of the White Sox and how bad the last three years have been, the thing with this hire...if these are true is that

  • He was the heir apparent to Bochy in Texas 
  • Turned down the Mets last off season leaving Cohen out of the conversation, Sterns is guy you want to work for 
  • Has worked with Theo - best baseball mind around and would assume a mentor
  • Resume that checks all major boxes 

His connections and resume lead me to hope there was a plan laid out to him as to why this job is worth taking.  Sure it is all pie in the sky s%*# that I look at and hope I can be a fan again but unlike Grifol I don't have to squint really hard to like this hire.   Yes there are only 30 of these jobs but I think we can assume he was in a position like Ben Johnson with the Lions in that he can have his pick and he isn't risking it without a plan. 

Is there a sale?

A move?

A new Stadium?

Why would he take this job?  The Bears job will be highly sought after, the White Sox, not so much.  

Maybe I just want to fan again

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40 minutes ago, Snopek said:

My simple take: On paper, this is a step in the right direction. Now show us more.

I look forward to being yelled at about this opinion.

I don’t see how ANYONE could have any issue with this statement. It’s simply factual.

A.) It was a nice hire.

B.) We need to be shown more.

Why would anyone yell at ya man? 😆

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23 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:

Looking beyond what we know already about the ineptitude of the White Sox and how bad the last three years have been, the thing with this hire...if these are true is that

  • He was the heir apparent to Bochy in Texas 
  • Turned down the Mets last off season leaving Cohen out of the conversation, Sterns is guy you want to work for 
  • Has worked with Theo - best baseball mind around and would assume a mentor
  • Resume that checks all major boxes 

His connections and resume lead me to hope there was a plan laid out to him as to why this job is worth taking.  Sure it is all pie in the sky s%*# that I look at and hope I can be a fan again but unlike Grifol I don't have to squint really hard to like this hire.   Yes there are only 30 of these jobs but I think we can assume he was in a position like Ben Johnson with the Lions in that he can have his pick and he isn't risking it without a plan. 

Is there a sale?

A move?

A new Stadium?

Why would he take this job?  The Bears job will be highly sought after, the White Sox, not so much.  

Maybe I just want to fan again

An obvious one is that Bruce Bochy has decided to coach until he’s 72 or 73 unless his health gives out, and that would leave him waiting several years for a job that wasn’t guaranteed to him.

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Day two take: He's our best manager since Ozzie (duck) and he's a great choice. The fact a sensational candidate would take this job with a capable GM but horrible owner means he "probably" believes in our top prospects including several "allegedly excellent" moundsmen plus Monte and Elko and some others. He probably thinks Robert and Monte are stars in the making. And he probably has a feeling the Sox in this day and age can somehow rustle together a serviceable bullpen.

In short, our new skipper thinks we can sniff .500 this year then go for it all the year after. We shall see but this means a capable baseball mind senses a plan. Otherwise he'd wait for a better team to offer him. GO SOX! GO BR!

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3 hours ago, Tony said:

I know it's your bit to take things to the extreme, but it just makes you look like a clown. 

Will Venable may be a good hire. Maybe he won't. None of us really know. I agree it's a positive that it isn't a former Royal or someone with close ties to La Russa, but as Ray was pointing out, it's sad the bar is low enough that excitement comes from the Sox not doing what they always do. 

But that's what happens when you've turned into one of the worst franchises in sports. Expectations become so low, that anything slightly different feels like a huge win. 

Everyone on this board hopes this is the start of a new chapter of Sox Baseball. But it's absolutely asinine to look down or judge a fan for having doubts about this organization putting in a real effort to turn this franchise into a perennial winner. 

But par for the course.

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