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18 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Part of the Astros' makeup draft after the Aiken year with Bregman at 2, Kyle Tucker at 5 and Cameron at 37 before going to Detroit for Verlander...son of Mike.

Didn't he also hit a game-tying homer off Liam Hendriks? 

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3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Almost the kind of move you'd expect for Davis Martin if the Sox weren't cutting payroll and trying to foist Fletcher on fans as an everyday OF option.

Not even close.  Soler has to be a DH only now.

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42 minutes ago, fathom said:

Not even close.  Soler has to be a DH only now.

Well, theoretically he'd replace Sheets...or be a platoon bat depending on splits, but the Angels are on the hook for $32 million of the remaining deal.

There has to be money going to LAA, except these trades are usually the opposite, where money is going TO Atlanta instead, as they are quite careful with their budgets (typically) as part of a corporate entity.

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The Atlanta Braves traded Jorge Soler to the Los Angeles Angels on October 31. Trading Soler means the Braves are not responsible for his $16 million salary in 2025.

FanSided's Zachary Rotman noted that the trade for Soler could clear up enough money for the Braves to sign Willy Adames of the Milwaukee Brewers. The Braves traded Soler for Griffin Canning.

 

"On the other hand, though, the Braves cleared a ton of money with this move. Since the Angels didn't force the Braves to eat any of the contract, all they had to send away to get Soler was Canning," wrote Rotman. "Assuming the Braves do non-tender Canning, they'll open up $32 million to spend. Soler was set to make $16 million in 2025 and 2026."

Spotrac projects Adames to sign a six-year, $152 million deal in free agency. He is the marquee shortstop available and the Braves will likely be in on him, along with the Los Angeles Dodgers.

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/atlanta-braves/news/braves-trade-jorge-soler-opens-door-sign-willy-adames-brewers-mlb-news/ff77efa7eea70481f83ddfd1

 

The other choices for the Dodgers at SS are Edman, Rojas (better as utility guy), HaSeong Kim (coming off surgery on his shoulder)...or Betts, although they seem settled on moving him back to the outfield for now.   Can't imagine they'd consider Javier Baez for ANY amount at this point.

For ATL, looks like another version of the Bummer trade...dump someone (or multiple guys in case of Soroka/Lopez) they no longer wanted on the roster (Soler in this case, already have Ozuna at DH), non-tender Canning and reallocate that money more efficiently.

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Soto wants 700 million. The way ballplayers go on extended slumps nowadays since they refuse to cut down their swings with two strikes, instead they'd rather continue to try to hit a bomb or whiff on a ball in the dirt, I don't think any player is worth near that. You'd have to have rocks in your head to pay any ballplayer not named Ohtani 500-700 million. I don't even blame Jerry for refusing to pay those kind of contracts. Look at Judge. he was one of the worst players in the entire postseason and he makes 360 mill over 9 years. Wasted money.

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8 hours ago, greg775 said:

Soto wants 700 million. The way ballplayers go on extended slumps nowadays since they refuse to cut down their swings with two strikes, instead they'd rather continue to try to hit a bomb or whiff on a ball in the dirt, I don't think any player is worth near that. You'd have to have rocks in your head to pay any ballplayer not named Ohtani 500-700 million. I don't even blame Jerry for refusing to pay those kind of contracts. Look at Judge. he was one of the worst players in the entire postseason and he makes 360 mill over 9 years. Wasted money.

Who would pay him that much, other than Yanks?

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13 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Who would pay him that much, other than Yanks?

The Yankees and Red Sox and dodgers and honestly you could probably put the Angels in there too because Moreno is occasionally insane, also the Mets. 
 

it’s not hard to think there will be multiple suitors for big money 

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8 hours ago, greg775 said:

Soto wants 700 million. The way ballplayers go on extended slumps nowadays since they refuse to cut down their swings with two strikes, instead they'd rather continue to try to hit a bomb or whiff on a ball in the dirt, I don't think any player is worth near that. You'd have to have rocks in your head to pay any ballplayer not named Ohtani 500-700 million. I don't even blame Jerry for refusing to pay those kind of contracts. Look at Judge. he was one of the worst players in the entire postseason and he makes 360 mill over 9 years. Wasted money.

Lmao, Jerry won't pay contracts that are a fraction of that.

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41 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

The Yankees and Red Sox and dodgers and honestly you could probably put the Angels in there too because Moreno is occasionally insane, also the Mets. 
 

it’s not hard to think there will be multiple suitors for big money 

Jays supposed to be involved, same with Giants and Nationals.  Some rumors it will be between Mets, Yankees and Dodgers.

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9 hours ago, greg775 said:

Soto wants 700 million. The way ballplayers go on extended slumps nowadays since they refuse to cut down their swings with two strikes, instead they'd rather continue to try to hit a bomb or whiff on a ball in the dirt, I don't think any player is worth near that. You'd have to have rocks in your head to pay any ballplayer not named Ohtani 500-700 million. I don't even blame Jerry for refusing to pay those kind of contracts. Look at Judge. he was one of the worst players in the entire postseason and he makes 360 mill over 9 years. Wasted money.

If paying superstars lots of money because they might go into slumps is wasting money, what do you consider paying less money to bad players who end up, in fact, being bad?

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38 minutes ago, Snopek said:

If paying superstars lots of money because they might go into slumps is wasting money, what do you consider paying less money to bad players who end up, in fact, being bad?

Just winning, baby.

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LMAO if Soto gets even 500m how dumb does it look we didn't even try for Machado or Harper. They'd be asking for 500-700 now.

Soto won't get 700 because he's not also a pitcher. Insane ask and I'd be willing to bet he ends up in the 400-450 area at most. 500 if the Dodgers or someone insane gets involved.  

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14 hours ago, Southwest Sider said:

LMAO if Soto gets even 500m how dumb does it look we didn't even try for Machado or Harper. They'd be asking for 500-700 now.

Soto won't get 700 because he's not also a pitcher. Insane ask and I'd be willing to bet he ends up in the 400-450 area at most. 500 if the Dodgers or someone insane gets involved.  

Not so.

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12 hours ago, oldsox said:

Not so.

They "tired" for Machado by thinking signing friends of his would convince him to take a low ball offer. 😆

Typical White Sox, JR has to "win" every negotiation and abhors the fact that quality players make what they do.

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11 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

They "tired" for Machado by thinking signing friends of his would convince him to take a low ball offer. 😆

Typical White Sox, JR has to "win" every negotiation and abhors the fact that quality players make what they do.

They tired for Machado when he wanted $300m.

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Thanks to this new deal, the Royals are bringing the key players of that rotation back, with Wacha, Seth Lugo, Cole Ragans and Brady Singer all returning in 2025. Lugo is in the second of a three-year deal he signed last winter (with an opt-out after ‘25), while Singer is in his third year of arbitration.

https://www.mlb.com/news/michael-wacha-royals-3-year-contract

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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Thanks to this new deal, the Royals are bringing the key players of that rotation back, with Wacha, Seth Lugo, Cole Ragans and Brady Singer all returning in 2025. Lugo is in the second of a three-year deal he signed last winter (with an opt-out after ‘25), while Singer is in his third year of arbitration.

https://www.mlb.com/news/michael-wacha-royals-3-year-contract

Wacha was looking at 2/$44 million if he went to the market...so guessing very quickly him and Cole are off the FA board.

Probably more than the White Sox will spend in total these next two off seasons.

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