southsider2k5 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:23 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: How is Gowans not a T30 guy? He had a great season, including AA, and has had a solid minor league track record ti this point. I’d certainly put him above guys like Nastrini, Eder, Burke, etc. Expand Looking at FutureSox, Keith Law, fangraphs, and MLB rankings he is quite literally not a top 30 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:30 PM, southsider2k5 said: Looking at FutureSox, Keith Law, fangraphs, and MLB rankings he is quite literally not a top 30 guy. Expand They’ve updated their rankings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:33 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: They’ve updated their rankings? Expand Since the bummer trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:33 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: They’ve updated their rankings? Expand So we are to the point where you claim he is a top 30 guy because you claim he is, despite no one else saying it. Got it. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:36 PM, southsider2k5 said: So we are to the point where you claim he is a top 30 guy because you claim he is, despite no one else saying it. Got it. Cool. Expand I’m saying he will be there on the updated rankings yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:35 PM, Balta1701 said: Since the bummer trade? Expand Since the season ended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:37 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Since the season ended Expand No but his time at Birmingham where he put up a WHIP of 1.35 in the 2nd half isn't likely to boost him in any rankings made my an independent viewer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:37 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: I’m saying he will be there on the updated rankings yes Expand Even if it actually were to happen, that just means he got on because other guys fell so much. That is also not a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:41 PM, Balta1701 said: No but his time at Birmingham where he put up a WHIP of 1.35 in the 2nd half isn't likely to boost him in any rankings made my an independent viewer. Expand It’s perfectly fine when combined with a 3.14 ERA and 10.5 K/9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:41 PM, Balta1701 said: No but his time at Birmingham where he put up a WHIP of 1.35 in the 2nd half isn't likely to boost him in any rankings made my an independent viewer. Expand He will also be going back to Birmingham as a 25 year old, and again above league average age as a post TJS guy with a profile that doesn't really jump out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:41 PM, southsider2k5 said: Even if it actually were to happen, that just means he got on because other guys fell so much. That is also not a good thing. Expand Ah, so now you’re shifting the argument to say he’s only in consideration for T30 because other guys fell. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:47 PM, southsider2k5 said: He will also be going back to Birmingham as a 25 year old, and again above league average age as a post TJS guy with a profile that doesn't really jump out. Expand Who says he’s going back to Birmingham to start the 2025 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:47 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Ah, so now you’re shifting the argument to say he’s only in consideration for T30 because other guys fell. Got it. Expand No, I was saying he wasn't top 30, which is accurate. He is literally not. You shifted this into "well i think so" territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 8:47 PM, southsider2k5 said: He will also be going back to Birmingham as a 25 year old, and again above league average age as a post TJS guy with a profile that doesn't really jump out. Expand He's worth more than T30 because he went to a local university. We can argue that, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 7, 2024 Share Posted November 7, 2024 On 11/6/2024 at 11:02 PM, caulfield12 said: He's worth more than T30 because he went to a local university. We can argue that, I guess. Expand Why does that matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2024 Share Posted November 7, 2024 On 11/7/2024 at 12:56 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: Why does that matter? Expand Marketing value of non T30 really grasping for straws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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