southsider2k5 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: How is Gowans not a T30 guy? He had a great season, including AA, and has had a solid minor league track record ti this point. I’d certainly put him above guys like Nastrini, Eder, Burke, etc. Looking at FutureSox, Keith Law, fangraphs, and MLB rankings he is quite literally not a top 30 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Looking at FutureSox, Keith Law, fangraphs, and MLB rankings he is quite literally not a top 30 guy. They’ve updated their rankings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: They’ve updated their rankings? Since the bummer trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: They’ve updated their rankings? So we are to the point where you claim he is a top 30 guy because you claim he is, despite no one else saying it. Got it. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So we are to the point where you claim he is a top 30 guy because you claim he is, despite no one else saying it. Got it. Cool. I’m saying he will be there on the updated rankings yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Since the bummer trade? Since the season ended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Since the season ended No but his time at Birmingham where he put up a WHIP of 1.35 in the 2nd half isn't likely to boost him in any rankings made my an independent viewer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: I’m saying he will be there on the updated rankings yes Even if it actually were to happen, that just means he got on because other guys fell so much. That is also not a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: No but his time at Birmingham where he put up a WHIP of 1.35 in the 2nd half isn't likely to boost him in any rankings made my an independent viewer. It’s perfectly fine when combined with a 3.14 ERA and 10.5 K/9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: No but his time at Birmingham where he put up a WHIP of 1.35 in the 2nd half isn't likely to boost him in any rankings made my an independent viewer. He will also be going back to Birmingham as a 25 year old, and again above league average age as a post TJS guy with a profile that doesn't really jump out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Even if it actually were to happen, that just means he got on because other guys fell so much. That is also not a good thing. Ah, so now you’re shifting the argument to say he’s only in consideration for T30 because other guys fell. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He will also be going back to Birmingham as a 25 year old, and again above league average age as a post TJS guy with a profile that doesn't really jump out. Who says he’s going back to Birmingham to start the 2025 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Ah, so now you’re shifting the argument to say he’s only in consideration for T30 because other guys fell. Got it. No, I was saying he wasn't top 30, which is accurate. He is literally not. You shifted this into "well i think so" territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: He will also be going back to Birmingham as a 25 year old, and again above league average age as a post TJS guy with a profile that doesn't really jump out. He's worth more than T30 because he went to a local university. We can argue that, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 13 hours ago, caulfield12 said: He's worth more than T30 because he went to a local university. We can argue that, I guess. Why does that matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 58 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Why does that matter? Marketing value of non T30 really grasping for straws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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