Crochet Trade Thread

[Chicago White Sox]

Might as well kick one off:

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With 25-year-old left-hander Garrett Crochet on the trade market, White Sox general manager Chris Getz is arguably the busiest executive at the GM Meetings this week.

There has been “a ton of interest in him from other clubs,” Getz said Tuesday, and the White Sox have a good idea of what they’re looking for in a potential trade.

“We are focusing on position player return,” Getz said. “That is our primary focus in any trade talks. The right players have to be there. We can't force anything. We certainly need to improve our offense. That is very clear. That is what we need to do in any trade or free-agent acquisition.”

https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-seeking-position-players-in-garrett-crochet-trade-talks

[Chicago White Sox]

Another interesting quote suggests we were pretty close to a deal last deadline

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Crochet was close to being dealt to a National League team ahead of the trade deadline this past summer. The two clubs were in agreement on two minor league players who would go back to the White Sox, but the conversations fell apart when they disagreed about a third prospect who would head to the South Side, sources said.

 

[PaleAleSox]

I'm thinking it will be the Brewers.

[hogan873]

5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I'm thinking it will be the Brewers.

That could be interesting.  Would the Brewers be able/willing to sign Crochet to a long deal when the time comes though?

[PaleAleSox]

8 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

That could be interesting.  Would the Brewers be able/willing to sign Crochet to a long deal when the time comes though?

Probably not, but I don't know if that is now a hold up. I was under the assumption that was for last year to pitch in the playoffs. If that does matter, then I would guess there is no way it's the Brewers. Probably the Mets.

[southsider2k5]

25 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Another interesting quote suggests we were pretty close to a deal last deadline

 

That is terrifying, yet not surprising.

[spiderman]

Are teams likely to give up top 100 offensive prospects this off-season? 

I don't think the White Sox should focus on specific positions as much as acquiring top talent so hopefully Getz won't settle for less talent because he wants a RF (as an example).

I think they would want 2 top prospects but not sure if that will be doable 

 

[MiddleCoastBias]

Bleacher Report so grain of salt etc, but there are a few interesting teams in here. Obviously all speculation but some teams and names I hadn't thought of. 

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10140565-cooking-up-8-garrett-crochet-trade-packages-for-2024-25-mlb-offseason.amp.html

Mets don't have anyone in their rotation, though they also lack some of the top-top prospects like some of the other programs, but Jett Williams is a fast riser and Drew Gilbert (not mentioned in this article but someone to look at) sounds like the good parts of Adam Eaton.

Phillies are obvious as that's where I thought he was going at the deadline last year, still like them to make this move.

[Highland]

On the surface, this doesn't make sense: Trading a great talent with little guarantee the team will get a good value in return. There is nothing like a rebuild. How did that last one go?

[SCCWS]

Crochet is a Number 1 or 2 starter for many teams next year. The White Sox should listen to all the offers but only trade him if they get a great offer and "someone" in the Sox office is smart enough to realize that. A number 1 or 2 starter should only be traded if there is a haul coming back.

[caulfield12]

8 minutes ago, SCCWS said:

Crochet is a Number 1 or 2 starter for many teams next year. The White Sox should listen to all the offers but only trade him if they get a great offer and "someone" in the Sox office is smart enough to realize that. A number 1 or 2 starter should only be traded if there is a haul coming back.

If they don't get a great offer...every start is one step closer to getting nothing back in return if he gets hurt again.

That's the talking time bomb that can't explode while the ball is in Getz's court.

Edited 3 hours ago by caulfield12

[Y2Jimmy0]

They were close with the Phillies at the deadline from what I've heard and it sounds Aiden Miller was a real sticking point. Dodgers talks involved Josue de Paula and River Ryan. The White Sox decided to hold obviously. I'd be really surprised if he's not moved this off-season. 

[SoxAce]

I'm scared. It's early, but this is the one area Getz has proven (so far) he isn't very good at. 

[bmags]

1 hour ago, spiderman said:

Are teams likely to give up top 100 offensive prospects this off-season? 

I don't think the White Sox should focus on specific positions as much as acquiring top talent so hopefully Getz won't settle for less talent because he wants a RF (as an example).

I think they would want 2 top prospects but not sure if that will be doable 

 

This is THE big question to me. I’m just not interested in pitching at all.

Jose’s de Paula…tough guy to buy in on in this org, but definitely seems like the only kind of talent we’ll get.

Really tough market for Sox to build out offensively, extremely important to find some more talent here as well as drafting/intl (even if years away - as trade material sooner)

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

14 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They were close with the Phillies at the deadline from what I've heard and it sounds Aiden Miller was a real sticking point. Dodgers talks involved Josue de Paula and River Ryan. The White Sox decided to hold obviously. I'd be really surprised if he's not moved this off-season. 

Phillies didn't want to give up Painter and Dodgers didn't want to give up Rushing.

[southsider2k5]

45 minutes ago, Highland said:

On the surface, this doesn't make sense: Trading a great talent with little guarantee the team will get a good value in return. There is nothing like a rebuild. How did that last one go?

Instead we should let Crochet walk for nothing?

[southsider2k5]

22 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They were close with the Phillies at the deadline from what I've heard and it sounds Aiden Miller was a real sticking point. Dodgers talks involved Josue de Paula and River Ryan. The White Sox decided to hold obviously. I'd be really surprised if he's not moved this off-season. 

Who were the Phillies top guys who were agreed to?

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

37 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Phillies didn't want to give up Painter and Dodgers didn't want to give up Rushing.

If the Sox thought they had a real good shot at getting Painter they might not have drafted Hagen Smith.

Draft was like 2 weeks before the TDL last day.

[ChiSox59]

1 hour ago, Highland said:

On the surface, this doesn't make sense: Trading a great talent with little guarantee the team will get a good value in return. There is nothing like a rebuild. How did that last one go?

As opposed to retaining Crochet in 2025 just to lose 100+ games again WITH him, while retaining significant injury risk and watching his value deplete regardless of how he pitches? 

Trading Crochet - assuming you can get a very good return - is an absolute no brainer. 

[CanOfCorn]

5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

As opposed to retaining Crochet in 2025 just to lose 100+ games again WITH him, while retaining significant injury risk and watching his value deplete regardless of how he pitches? 

Trading Crochet - assuming you can get a very good return - is an absolute no brainer. 

That's the key phrase right there. We need Getz to hit on who comes in return. 

[Highland]

51 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Instead we should let Crochet walk for nothing?

No, keep Crochet and try to build around him.  Trading him seems to me like constant rebuilding that leads nowhere.  Are they trading him to get value or are they trading him to save money? In the future how many more budget moves are made while the team goes nowhere. Sorry, I've been a fan for a long time and have had enough of rebuilding.  This team should be keeping and developing talent instead of trading it away. I will not assume that they will get a good return.

[ChiSox59]

4 minutes ago, CanOfCorn said:

That's the key phrase right there. We need Getz to hit on who comes in return. 

For sure. I don’t expect it to happen quickly.  But I think as many as 20 or more teams should have legitimate interest. They should be able to do really well. I don’t think Getz did all that well in the Cease deal, so it’s certainly fair to have some skepticism there, and obviously teams have been pretty reluctant to move elite position player prospects recently. 

[ChiSox59]

2 minutes ago, Highland said:

No, keep Crochet and try to build around him.  Trading him seems to me like constant rebuilding that leads nowhere.  Are they trading him to get value or are they trading him to save money? In the future how many more budget moves are made while the team goes nowhere. Sorry, I've been a fan for a long time and have had enough of rebuilding.  This team should be keeping and developing talent instead of trading it away. I will not assume that they will get a good return.

Crochet is controlled for 2 seasons. The first season they’ll be terrible. Absolute best case scenario, Sox are mildly interesting up and coming team in 2026. Crochets control does not fit the time line and the Sox desperately need position player talent and he’s the last major piece to get it. 

[caulfield12]

3 minutes ago, Highland said:

No, keep Crochet and try to build around him.  Trading him seems to me like constant rebuilding that leads nowhere.  Are they trading him to get value or are they trading him to save money? In the future how many more budget moves are made while the team goes nowhere. Sorry, I've been a fan for a long time and have had enough of rebuilding.  This team should be keeping and developing talent instead of trading it away. I will not assume that they will get a good return.

JR won't give an extension to a pitcher with one TJ in his history who throws in the upper 90s....might as well wish for Jason Benetti to return to the Sox under new ownership at some Indeterminate point in the future. 

[Snopek]

7 minutes ago, Highland said:

No, keep Crochet and try to build around him.  Trading him seems to me like constant rebuilding that leads nowhere.  Are they trading him to get value or are they trading him to save money? In the future how many more budget moves are made while the team goes nowhere. Sorry, I've been a fan for a long time and have had enough of rebuilding.  This team should be keeping and developing talent instead of trading it away. I will not assume that they will get a good return.

Keeping him is not a realistic option with JR, therefore he has to be traded. It sucks, but such is a life as a Sox fan.