Crochet Trade Thread

[fathom]

8 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Going which way?

To the Sox…that would be a brutal trade straight up

[almagest]

If the Sox trade Robert + for Lux, or even straight up, then I will be 100% wrong on giving Getz a chance. Even in an atrocious year Robert's value wasn't that far from Lux.

[southsider2k5]

35 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

If Getz sends prospects with Robert for Gavin fucking Lux, he is dumber than we even imagine.

So it is probably happening.

[southsider2k5]

31 minutes ago, fathom said:

To the Sox…that would be a Getz trade straight up

 

[bmags]

58 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Robert to the Dodgers for Lux.

Good point, we’d need to replace benintendi’s bat 

[Y2Jimmy0]

A few things based on this thread. 
 

1. Attaching Andrew Benintendi to Garrett Crochet would be a disaster. 
 

2. If the White Sox can’t do better than Gavin Lux for Robert, they should and will hold. Need to maximize the return so I expect him on opening day roster. 
 

3. I don’t love Boston as a Crochet trade partner. I doubt Roman Anthony or Mayer will be available and I’m not sure Kristian Robinson has a defensive position. 

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Robert to the Dodgers for Lux.

Why?  He's already in arbitration...because they can't afford a FA shortstop?

To play second?  Then there's no place to play Sosa, unless he's going to third and therefore blocking Montgomery and Ramos.

He's definitely not a SS.

Just like LA decided Grandal wasn't a catcher before we spent almost $70 million to determine that for ourselves.

[southsider2k5]

5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

A few things based on this thread. 
 

1. Attaching Andrew Benintendi to Garrett Crochet would be a disaster. 
 

2. If the White Sox can’t do better than Gavin Lux for Robert, they should and will hold. Need to maximize the return so I expect him on opening day roster. 
 

3. I don’t love Boston as a Crochet trade partner. I doubt Roman Anthony or Mayer will be available and I’m not sure Kristian Robinson has a defensive position. 

I am all about these two.

[Springfield Soxfan]

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Robert to the Dodgers for Lux.

Apparently it was between Collins and Lux for first round pick in 2016……..

[Balta1701]

If the White Sox have decided that they are dumping Robert, I can't say I'd be furious. I fully believe they have completely screwed up his mindset and work ethic, and if they don't believe their coaches can fix it, they will be right.

Taking "Whatever the best you can get" is for Robert, at this point, I can follow that.

However, if the best you can get is a guy who is already in arbitration, yeah just hold him. At least give me one of Getz'z A-ball specials that the Getzlyfans can oggle for a few years until they're out of the sport. Better chance of being useful. 

[TheFutureIsNear]

Unless a team blows him away with an offer I don’t think Getz should be looking to deal Robert this offseason. His value couldn’t possibly be lower. Sure, there’s risk of injury, but it’s not like he could possibly be worse than last year. With getting healthy in the offseason + a whole new coaching staff there’s more reason to believe his value will go up rather than down. 
 

I thought trading Cease during the offseason last year was a bad move, Robert would be an even worse. 

[PaleAleSox]

2 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Unless a team blows him away with an offer I don’t think Getz should be looking to deal Robert this offseason. His value couldn’t possibly be lower. Sure, there’s risk of injury, but it’s not like he could possibly be worse than last year. With getting healthy in the offseason + a whole new coaching staff there’s more reason to believe his value will go up rather than down. 
 

I thought trading Cease during the offseason last year was a bad move, Robert would be an even worse. 

Yeah I was on board for trading him but now you hold him and hope the new staff can fix him. There is no way they get the right value. 

[Balta1701]

15 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Yeah I was on board for trading him but now you hold him and hope the new staff can fix him. There is no way they get the right value. 

If hypothetically Luis Robert drops another 0 WAR season and misses another 3 months with a major injury, isn't his option for 2026 declined?

[TheFutureIsNear]

4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

If hypothetically Luis Robert drops another 0 WAR season and misses another 3 months with a major injury, isn't his option for 2026 declined?

Gotta roll the dice sometimes in life…can’t live scared. The only realistic shot the Sox have to be competitive within 5 years (outside of the team being sold) hinges on the return from Robert and Crochet. There’s literally nothing else outside a small handful of prospects. Getting a mediocre return for Robert is going to do nothing to change that. 

 

 

[WestEddy]

1 hour ago, Springfield Soxfan said:

Apparently it was between Collins and Lux for first round pick in 2016……..

That entire first round was ass. Will Smith at #32 is the only player to reliably produce. 

[caulfield12]

2 hours ago, Springfield Soxfan said:

Apparently it was between Collins and Lux for first round pick in 2016……..

Hostetler said he would have taken Collins at 1-1, lol.

[PaleAleSox]

15 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Hostetler said he would have taken Collins at 1-1, lol.

Execs say s%*# like that all of the time. 

[Chicago White Sox]

5 hours ago, fathom said:

I actually think a monster deal of Crochet, Robert and Benintendi to the Phillies could work given what the Phillies need and have.

You rarely optimize value by combining assets.  And Robert is an obvious hold at this point given his bad 2024.

[Chicago White Sox]

4 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Robert to the Dodgers for Lux.

Make it stop 😰

[Timmy U]

4 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Robert to the Dodgers for Lux.

Is that something you heard? Or something you want? Lux has only 2 more years of control. Getting him at all makes little sense. Getting him by giving up one of our 2 decent assets seems kinda insane, but it wouldn't be the worst trade we've made with the Dodgers in the last 3 months.

Nightengale says Phillies and Dodgers favorites for Crochet. I know he's not mlb-ready, but I do like Hope.

[Chicago White Sox]

4 hours ago, Tnetennba said:

If Getz sends prospects with Robert for Gavin fucking Lux, he is dumber than we even imagine.

Wanting the Sox to target a very ordinary player with two years of control while coming off the worst season in baseball history is quite the take.

[ChiSox59]

4 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Robert to the Dodgers for Lux.

WOOF. Robert has more control than Lux. Makes less than zero sense

[caulfield12]

The only thing that makes ANY sense is moving Lux back to SS...which still only makes sense to the White Sox.

That still gives you Montgomery/Ramos at third, Vargas/Sosa at 2B and not sure what you do with Baldwin.

Probably put him at Charlotte and wait for his health and bat to return.

 

In theory, Ramos at 1B/DH saves $6 million on Vaughn, and with a Benintendi/Crochet trade...you put Vargas in LF

 

How that's ANY better than 2024???, well...it's definitely NOT.

Because Lux isn't a SS, but neither is Amaya, because he simply can't hit his way out of a wet paper bag.

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Wanting the Sox to target a very ordinary player with two years of control while coming off the worst season in baseball history is quite the take.

Reminiscent of the Adam Frazier love affair over the last 2-3 years.

[southsider2k5]

1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said:

Execs say s%*# like that all of the time. 

This one I will agree to.  Execs are always out there pretending like the guy they ended up with, was the one they wanted all along.  I remember the old joke about Mike Trout being the second choice of 29 teams in MLB the year he was drafted.