Crochet Trade Thread

[Bob Sacamano]

6 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

 

Worth noting that they tried at the deadline but someone out of Boston reported they couldn't really take on Benintendi's contract as part of it. Easier to maneuver a budget in the offseason than mid-season.

Edit: I know it's not a popular idea as I also think that is stupid when the payroll is going to be so low but still seems like a possibility. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Bob Sacamano

[Balta1701]

1 hour ago, Fielder Jones said:

teams didnt value Fedde's results more than Kikuchi's pitch data (w/ bad results)

then Kikuchi proceeded to be awesome and Fedde proceeded to suck

the days are over where a team trading for a guy is only going to care about what they did recently results-wise

We don't know this. 

What we do know is Getz took a terrible offer for Fedde, but we've heard that Getz had recommendations saying "take that offer". Even the sycophantic insiders haven't come out and said "all the other offers for Fedde were garbage", they said that about Cease when trying to defend Getz taking that offer.

[Fielder Jones]

24 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

We don't know this. 

What we do know is Getz took a terrible offer for Fedde, but we've heard that Getz had recommendations saying "take that offer". Even the sycophantic insiders haven't come out and said "all the other offers for Fedde were garbage", they said that about Cease when trying to defend Getz taking that offer.

Highest tier prospects were not traded at this deadline. People were going nuts on the return for Kikuchi though (though, no elite prospects involved). Info i'm giving you explains why there's a disparity there

[fathom]

I don’t think we’d be thrilled with the players Boston would be willing to give up

[GreatScott82]

23 minutes ago, fathom said:

I don’t think we’d be thrilled with the players Boston would be willing to give up

Sadly, I don't think we will be thrilled with the players any team would be willing to give up. The league saw how Getz handled the Fedde/Kopech transaction and are probably anticipating that they can also fleece the White Sox for Crochet. 

[ScootsMcGoots]

2 hours ago, PaleAleSox said:

Maybe I'm remembering wrong - but weren't there work ethic issues around him from pretty early on?

That I don't know. But personally what I think the Sox should do is sign Juan Soto's best friend or cousin like they did with Manny Machado. That will get fans in the seats. For sure.

[southsider2k5]

41 minutes ago, fathom said:

I don’t think we’d be thrilled with the players Boston would be willing to give up

But we will hear plenty about how great they actually are, and how we shouldn't have expected anything more.

[WestEddy]

14 minutes ago, GreatScott82 said:

Sadly, I don't think we will be thrilled with the players any team would be willing to give up. The league saw how Getz handled the Fedde/Kopech transaction and are probably anticipating that they can also fleece the White Sox for Crochet. 

I doubt Milwaukee is going to hang back, thinking they could "fleece" Getz, and take a chance on the Cubs swooping in, and then signing Crochet to a 6 year deal. All teams are hoarding top hitting prospects, the one thing Getz is looking for. 

[Hamhock]

11 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

You are spot on everywhere in this thread and a strong Philly offer is one I could be very excited about. 

My non-expert two cents' of opinion:

Philly is in a non-desperate situation, because Crochet is a "nice to have" for them rather than a "desperately needed" - they already have four solid+ starters and Painter in the wings.

Unless part of the return is Philly unloading a contract on the White Sox (for example, pitcher Taijuan Walker and his 2/yr. $36 million owed) along with multiple prospects not named Miller/Painter/Crawford, I doubt it happens.

[PaleAleSox]

Only took until page 5 for people to be mad about hypothetical situations. Hell yes.

[GREEDY]

Pressure is on Getz to acquire MLB ready talent.

Buyers of pitchers with one year of control remaining generally don't have high end MLB ready talent to spare.

 

[JoeC]

15 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Only took until page 5 for people to be openly mad about hypothetical situations. Hell yes.

FYP

[hi8is]

7 minutes ago, GREEDY said:

Pressure is on Getz to acquire MLB ready talent.

Oh yea?

[caulfield12]

23 minutes ago, GREEDY said:

Pressure is on Getz to acquire MLB ready talent.

Buyers of pitchers with one year of control remaining generally don't have high end MLB ready talent to spare.

 

Two years…

[Kyyle23]

24 minutes ago, GREEDY said:

Pressure is on Getz to acquire MLB ready talent.

Buyers of pitchers with one year of control remaining generally don't have high end MLB ready talent to spare.

 

I just don’t believe there is any significant pressure or expectations for Getz for at least 2 years.  And after that the pressure will probably match up with his owners desires to spend, which probably will remain low 

[joejoesox]

2 hours ago, fathom said:

I don’t think we’d be thrilled with the players Boston would be willing to give up

you don't think they would give up their best prospects? any reason why?

[fathom]

8 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

you don't think they would give up their best prospects? any reason why?

Anthony is the top prospect in baseball. Hard to imagine they trade him.  Supposedly their big 3 aren’t available.

[fathom]

I actually think a monster deal of Crochet, Robert and Benintendi to the Phillies could work given what the Phillies need and have.

[Balta1701]

2 hours ago, PaleAleSox said:

Only took until page 5 for people to be mad about hypothetical situations. Hell yes.

It took 1 post for us to hear how there was strong interest in the player.