Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread

[Harold's Leg Lift]

C'mon Mets!

[Timmy U]

  On 11/26/2024 at 11:16 PM, Balta1701 said:

Quero and Schultz seem very likely to graduate. Montgomery will probably either graduate or will plummet. They will only be drafting 10th, which may or may not give a top 100 prospect. That leaves Smith...who MLB.com also thinks has a decent chance of graduating. 

How many top 100 prospects will the White Sox have after this year? Entirely depends on trades, right?

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So the worry here is that the Sox graduate 4 rookies past their eligibility in one year and that, despite 16 first rounders making the list this year, pick 1-10 is not a top 100 prospect. I will point out that Iriarte is close on several lists and that Wolkow, Bonemer, and Grant Taylor all have the tools to be top 100 guys. But sure, the Sox could have zero top 100 guys at this time next year. Anything is possible.

[DirtySox]

I sure hope it's the Phillies. Miller, Crawford and Caba are all very enticing.

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

  On 11/26/2024 at 11:16 PM, Balta1701 said:

Quero and Schultz seem very likely to graduate. Montgomery will probably either graduate or will plummet. They will only be drafting 10th, which may or may not give a top 100 prospect. That leaves Smith...who MLB.com also thinks has a decent chance of graduating. 

How many top 100 prospects will the White Sox have after this year? Entirely depends on trades, right?

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I didn’t say a year from now, I said today. And if I had to guess how many T100 guys the Sox will have a year from now, I’d say 4.

[SoCalChiSox]

  On 11/27/2024 at 12:19 AM, Chicago White Sox said:

I still think he ends up on the Phillies.  With the Dodgers being a legit super team, other NL contenders need to go big or go home.  Miller, Crawford, and a solid third piece gets it done.  

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I'd be shocked if we got both Miller and Crawford out of them. That would be awesome. I think Law said Miller should stick at SS.

Unfortunately, the odds of Getz negotiating that kind of return out of Dombrowski is zero. 

 

[Balta1701]

  On 11/27/2024 at 1:21 AM, Timmy U said:

So the worry here is that the Sox graduate 4 rookies past their eligibility in one year and that, despite 16 first rounders making the list this year, pick 1-10 is not a top 100 prospect. I will point out that Iriarte is close on several lists and that Wolkow, Bonemer, and Grant Taylor all have the tools to be top 100 guys. But sure, the Sox could have zero top 100 guys at this time next year. Anything is possible.

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Do the Orioles have the same type of guys who could step up into the top 100? Because  what was said in the post was that next summer they could be down to 1 or 0 top 100 guys because the current ones would graduate, but we didn’t get any rundown of their just-missed guys and if they could step up too.

[Balta1701]

  On 11/27/2024 at 1:27 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I didn’t say a year from now, I said today. And if I had to guess how many T100 guys the Sox will have a year from now, I’d say 4.

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You specifically said Mayo graduating by June.

[Chicago White Sox]

  On 11/27/2024 at 1:27 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I didn’t say a year from now, I said today. And if I had to guess how many T100 guys the Sox will have a year from now, I’d say 4.

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Which four?

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

  On 11/27/2024 at 1:49 AM, Balta1701 said:

You specifically said Mayo graduating by June.

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I said the Sox have a better farm system than the Orioles now and, yes, the Orioles will be down to 1 T100 prospect come June when Mayo has graduated. He very well could graduate by the end of April if he breaks camp with the team.

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

  On 11/27/2024 at 1:55 AM, Chicago White Sox said:

Which four?

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Well, if I had to guess.. (1) Schultz, (2) Smith, and then (3) (4) some combination of prospects traded for (in Crochet, Robert trades), drafted with the #10 pick, and/or guys that are just outside the T100 now that make the leap.

[southsider2k5]

  On 11/26/2024 at 11:13 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

People here laughed a few months ago when I said the Sox farm system is now better than the Orioles. But Orioles fans insisted Elias was going to maintain the farm system at a high standard even while the mlb team was trying to compete and they were no longer drafting in the top 5 every year lol. With Mayo likely to graduate from prospect status by June, they’ll then have just one T100 MLB prospect.

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I don't think effectively saying if the Orioles graduate their top 10 the Sox system might be better is the flex you think it is.

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

  On 11/27/2024 at 3:34 AM, southsider2k5 said:

I don't think effectively saying if the Orioles graduate their top 10 the Sox system might be better is the flex you think it is.

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Who said it was a flex other than you? I think the Sox farm system is barely above average (back end of top 10 in mlb), which just goes to show how far the Orioles system has fallen in the span of 12 months. 

[hi8is]

Most interest quote from the Bowden article: “Teams are lining up for Crochet and the White Sox aren’t trading him unless they land at least two everyday position players they can put in the middle of their lineup going forward.”

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

  On 11/27/2024 at 3:42 AM, hi8is said:

Most interest quote from the Bowden article: “Teams are lining up for Crochet and the White Sox aren’t trading him unless they land at least two everyday position players they can put in the middle of their lineup going forward.”

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Agreed. I still think the Phillies or Red Sox are the likely partner and the following deals would meet that criteria.

Phillies: Miller, Caba, Bohm

Red Sox: Campbell, Abreu, Garcia

[Lyle Moooton]

Snell to LAD. hopefully that gets the ball rolling a bit. 

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

  On 11/27/2024 at 4:02 AM, Lyle Moooton said:

Snell to LAD. hopefully that gets the ball rolling a bit. 

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Good. I could never envision a crochet package with them

 

[Timmy U]

I wanted the Dodgers, but why give up players when your team prints money? I wonder if this means Sasaki is headed to the Padres.

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

  On 11/27/2024 at 4:16 AM, Timmy U said:

I wanted the Dodgers, but why give up players when your team prints money? I wonder if this means Sasaki is headed to the Padres.

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Yuck. They wouldn’t be top 5 for me

[southsider2k5]

  On 11/27/2024 at 3:41 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Who said it was a flex other than you? I think the Sox farm system is barely above average (back end of top 10 in mlb), which just goes to show how far the Orioles system has fallen in the span of 12 months. 

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If it isn't,  why do you keep saying it like it has meaning?

[SoCalChiSox]

  On 11/27/2024 at 3:42 AM, hi8is said:

Most interest quote from the Bowden article: “Teams are lining up for Crochet and the White Sox aren’t trading him unless they land at least two everyday position players they can put in the middle of their lineup going forward.”

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Good.

And hopefully the middle of the order reference means Getz has finall_ figured out that Limp Dick Ball isn't a legitimate offensive strategy and at least some actual savages (besides Montgomery) are required.

[SoCalChiSox]

  On 11/27/2024 at 4:09 AM, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Good. I could never envision a crochet package with them

 

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Same

[Whisox05]

 

 

[fathom]

  On 11/27/2024 at 5:09 AM, Whisox05 said:

 

 

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Fried

[peanut33tillman]

I think in the end this comes down to one of the Redsox, Mets or Phillies. Of these 3 I think Boston matches up best but Philly could put together a really good package as well. 

[hi8is]

  On 11/27/2024 at 4:16 AM, Timmy U said:

I wanted the Dodgers, but why give up players when your team prints money? I wonder if this means Sasaki is headed to the Padres.

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From MLBTR::

”The Dodgers will surely make a push for NPB ace Roki Sasaki, who’d arguably be the season-opening fifth starter if he went to L.A. Even if Sasaki signs elsewhere, the Dodgers could make a push for Garrett Crochet on the offseason trade market and/or continue adding starting pitching at the deadline.”