Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread

[Timmy U]

I imagine the Riki Sasaki news eliminates the Dodgers from the Crochet derby. Too bad. I like their trio of hitters best of any of the teams involved.

[Dick Allen]

1 hour ago, Timmy U said:

I imagine the Riki Sasaki news eliminates the Dodgers from the Crochet derby. Too bad. I like their trio of hitters best of any of the teams involved.

Well because of his age, he will be a bargain. Why doesn’t Getz just sign him? I’m sure he will be impressed with Chris’ vision of the future.

[Dick Allen]

14 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Because the Sox former Executive Vice President was a goofball, and you would be foolish to believe anything he or Hahn said.

Kenny literally tried to say that an 8-year contract worth $250 million guaranteed, with non-guaranteed Incentives and option years that could push the total value to $350 million was a better offer than 10-years, $300 million guaranteed with an opt-out after the 5th year.

Kenny and Hahn were lying fools.  Oh yes, “the money will be spent”…  until it wasn’t.

Of course he was full of it. He said the Sox offer was for more money, but for some reason the team couldn’t afford to match the Padres offer of less money.

[PaleAleSox]

1 hour ago, Timmy U said:

I imagine the Riki Sasaki news eliminates the Dodgers from the Crochet derby. Too bad. I like their trio of hitters best of any of the teams involved.

Hoping Roki to the Dodgers makes a team like the Phillies/Mets panic and really overpay.

[southsider2k5]

https://nypost.com/2024/11/08/sports/white-sox-reveal-what-theyd-seek-in-garrett-crochet-trade/

[WestEddy]

15 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Because the Sox former Executive Vice President was a goofball, and you would be foolish to believe anything he or Hahn said.

Kenny literally tried to say that an 8-year contract worth $250 million guaranteed, with non-guaranteed Incentives and option years that could push the total value to $350 million was a better offer than 10-years, $300 million guaranteed with an opt-out after the 5th year.

Kenny and Hahn were lying fools.  Oh yes, “the money will be spent”…  until it wasn’t.

It's just funny how you guys default to believing complete BS. 

https://clutchpoints.com/phillies-news-zack-wheeler-speaks-out-signing-philadelphia-white-sox

[almagest]

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

It's just funny how you guys default to believing complete BS. 

https://clutchpoints.com/phillies-news-zack-wheeler-speaks-out-signing-philadelphia-white-sox

There’s enough to be ticked off with this team already. We don’t need to invent things.

[caulfield12]

7 minutes ago, almagest said:

There’s enough to be ticked off with this team already. We don’t need to invent things.

He was simply a better GM in terms of forecasting the Sox future than Hahn or KW.

[southsider2k5]

1 hour ago, almagest said:

There’s enough to be ticked off with this team already. We don’t need to invent things.

As opposed to being mad enough that people are mad after the worst season in MLB history that they need to gatekeep what everyone is allowed to be mad about.  Speaking of inventing things.. 

[hi8is]

6 hours ago, Timmy U said:

I imagine the Riki Sasaki news eliminates the Dodgers from the Crochet derby. Too bad. I like their trio of hitters best of any of the teams involved.

I don’t think Sasaki would take them out of Crochet.

Edited November 9 by hi8is

[46DidIt]

4 hours ago, almagest said:

It doesn’t. Like I said, there’s plenty to be bothered by without making up ridiculous conspiracy theories.

[Eminor3rd]

I've got one source that believes Sasaki will specifically avoid the Dodgers specifically because Ohtani is already there. I don't know if he's right, but the source is someone who would know stuff.

[FT35]

What if Venable sells Jerry on how the Rangers went out and spent about a billion dollars on FAs and it led to a title in like 2-3 years?  They sign Soto and Burnes and a closer.   They keep Crochet and Robert. (Lol to all!)

But they could end up with a rotation of:

Crochet

Burnes

Thorpe

N. Shultz

H. Smith

And a team of:

1B Vaughn

2B Some FA

SS Montgomery

3B Ramos

OF Soto

OF Robert

OF Benintendi

C Lee/Quero

They have some decent bullpen pieces and if they add a closer—that is starting to look like a team that could win at LEAST 50 games, no?!?!

Edited November 11 by FT35

[Balta1701]

6 minutes ago, FT35 said:

What if Venable sells Jerry on how the Rangers went out and spent about a billion dollars on FAs and it led to a title in like 2-3 years?  They sign Soto and Burnes and a closer.   They keep Crochet and Robert. (Lol to all!)

But they could end up with a rotation of:

Crochet

Burnes

Thorpe

N. Shultz

H. Smith

And a team of:

1B Vaughn

2B Some FA

SS Montgomery

3B Ramos

OF Soto

OF Robert

OF Benintendi

C Lee/Quero

They have some decent bullpen pieces and if they add a closer—that is starting to look like a team that could win at LEAST 50 games, no?!?!

If we were looking at an honest sport, a team coming off literally the worst season any of us have ever seen would feel compelled to make these kinds of moves, and although it might not be a playoff team next year, you have to admit it looks a lot better yes. You put a 41 win team on the field in the 3rd biggest city in the country? Yeah, your penance should be signing a $600 million outfielder and a $200 million pitcher to bring yourself back to respectability.

And for reference, you said a half billion - you have underpriced just your OF addition with that amount. Talk about a billion for this roster.

But no, Jerry Reinsdorf is your problem. 

[FT35]

4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

If we were looking at an honest sport, a team coming off literally the worst season any of us have ever seen would feel compelled to make these kinds of moves, and although it might not be a playoff team next year, you have to admit it looks a lot better yes. You put a 41 win team on the field in the 3rd biggest city in the country? Yeah, your penance should be signing a $600 million outfielder and a $200 million pitcher to bring yourself back to respectability.

And for reference, you said a half billion - you have underpriced just your OF addition with that amount. Talk about a billion for this roster.

But no, Jerry Reinsdorf is your problem. 

Totally!  I did say “about a billion.”  I know the Rangers were at a half billion…but they were closer than we are with the rest of their roster.  We are a billion away at least.  And that counts calling up minor league talent before it’s ready.

[caulfield12]

JR won't even commit to the $700 million Rays' ownership came up for their stadium project...

[hi8is]

55 minutes ago, FT35 said:

What if Venable sells Jerry on how the Rangers went out and spent about a billion dollars on FAs and it led to a title in like 2-3 years?  They sign Soto and Burnes and a closer.   They keep Crochet and Robert. (Lol to all!)

But they could end up with a rotation of:

Crochet

Burnes

Thorpe

N. Shultz

H. Smith

And a team of:

1B Vaughn

2B Some FA

SS Montgomery

3B Ramos

OF Soto

OF Robert

OF Benintendi

C Lee/Quero

They have some decent bullpen pieces and if they add a closer—that is starting to look like a team that could win at LEAST 50 games, no?!?!

God bless your soul.

[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, FT35 said:

Totally!  I did say “about a billion.”  I know the Rangers were at a half billion…but they were closer than we are with the rest of their roster.  We are a billion away at least.  And that counts calling up minor league talent before it’s ready.

5-years, $75 million.  That’s all you need to know.

[southsider2k5]

12 hours ago, FT35 said:

What if Venable sells Jerry on how the Rangers went out and spent about a billion dollars on FAs and it led to a title in like 2-3 years?  They sign Soto and Burnes and a closer.   They keep Crochet and Robert. (Lol to all!)

But they could end up with a rotation of:

Crochet

Burnes

Thorpe

N. Shultz

H. Smith

And a team of:

1B Vaughn

2B Some FA

SS Montgomery

3B Ramos

OF Soto

OF Robert

OF Benintendi

C Lee/Quero

They have some decent bullpen pieces and if they add a closer—that is starting to look like a team that could win at LEAST 50 games, no?!?!

And what if I win the mega millions this week?

[steveno89]

22 minutes ago, almagest said:

That's why I said it's not going to happen. I'm just stretching to see how it would be possible in theory land.

All good

 

Bringing this thread back on topic

Certain clubs like the Phillies, Red Sox, and Orioles seem to have the position player prospects the Sox would covet in a trade 

I do not love the Mets as a fit

Dodgers always could get involved?

Edited November 11 by steveno89

[PaleAleSox]

11 minutes ago, steveno89 said:

All good

 

Brining this thread back on topic

Certain clubs like the Phillies, Red Sox, and Orioles seem to have the position player prospects the Sox would covet in a trade 

I do not love the Mets as a fit

Dodgers always could get involved?

I hope the final landing spot is not the Padres, but I hope they are involved to drive up the price for other teams.

[steveno89]

7 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I hope the final landing spot is not the Padres, but I hope they are involved to drive up the price for other teams.

I doubt the Padres would be destination for Crochet, although of course I could be wrong

Salas and de Vries would be of obvious interest, along with Mayfield, Bateman and Tears. I am not sure they would be willing to part with either of those top guys and they are both also quite a way from the majors. 

I would guess Sox are looking for position player(s) they are only 1-2 seasons away from a callup, otherwise this rebuild will take forever

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

On 11/7/2024 at 7:06 AM, southsider2k5 said:

The crowd that thinks we can build around Crochet will lose their minds.

What crowd ? You're making up a wild scenario and how some Sox fans would react to it.
Extending  Crochet is just some fans preference. They know it won't happen. 

The only way it gets ugly around here is if the return is deemed subpar .

If the return seems adequate and doesn't involve Benintendi most here will be content.

If he's extended by the team he'd traded to almost right away, which is also highly speculative ,we have no idea what that extension would look like, so until we do, how could these imaginary fans lose their minds ?

Both you and Balta have a few things in common. You both think Crochet was abused and hates the Sox despite nothing anywhere to support this except your own fertile imaginations. You both also think he could sign a big money deal ($150M+) right now despite having little leverage. No one here will lose their mind if an extension is in that range.

Lucky for everyone here you're a reactionary not a visionary.

Imaginary trades with an imaginary contract extention with imaginary fans acting in imagnary ways is you've lost you're mind level stuff.

Edited November 12 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[PaleAleSox]

10 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

What crowd ? You're making up a wild scenario and how some Sox fans would react to it.
Extending  Crochet is just some fans preference. They know it won't happen. 

The only way it gets ugly around here is if the return is deemed subpar .

If the return seems adequate and doesn't involve Benintendi most here will be content.

If he's extended by the team he'd traded to almost right away, which is also highly speculative ,we have no idea what that extension would look like, so until we do, how could these imaginary fans lose their minds ?

Both you and Balta have a few things in common. You both think Crochet was abused and hates the Sox despite nothing anywhere to support this except your own fertile imaginations. You both also think he could sign a big money deal ($150M+) right now despite having little leverage. No one here will lose their mind if an extension is in that range.

Lucky for everyone here you're a reactionary not a visionary.

Imaginary trades with an imaginary contract extention with imaginary fans acting in imagnary ways is you've lost you're mind level stuff.

Some have already done that no matter what.

[WhiteSox2023]

20 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Some have already done that no matter what.

Surprising, huh?  I would have been almost certain that Getz had earned everyone’s trust to give him the benefit of the doubt with his stellar offseason and in-season acquisitions and trades thus far.

Edited November 12 by WhiteSox2023