caulfield12 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) And now back to regularly-schedule programming... Eric Longenhagen at Fangraphs said there's a RUMOR that Dodgers have a deal to acquire $3M international space for Josue De Paula. Dodgers: Josue De Paula, OF (No. 2/MLB No. 48) Few players in the Minors can match De Paula's combination of hitting ability, power potential and plate discipline, and he slashed .268/.404/.405 with 10 homers and 27 steals in 107 games between two Single-A levels at age 19. The second cousin of former NBA guards Stephon Marbury and Sebastian Telfair, he was born in Brooklyn but signed out of the Dominican Republic for $397,500 in 2022. That would be nuts if the White Sox could pull that one off...pretty much anyone would trade the entire Sox signing group as it stands today for De Paula individually. Edited January 16 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 1:34 AM, Quin said: I've seen it and quote it frequently. Why all the characters' ages (and deaths?) suddenly came up, I don't know. Expand Forget it, he's rolling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 1:51 AM, caulfield12 said: And now back to regularly-schedule programming... Eric Longenhagen at Fangraphs said there's a RUMOR that Dodgers have a deal to acquire $3M international space for Josue De Paula. Dodgers: Josue De Paula, OF (No. 2/MLB No. 48) Few players in the Minors can match De Paula's combination of hitting ability, power potential and plate discipline, and he slashed .268/.404/.405 with 10 homers and 27 steals in 107 games between two Single-A levels at age 19. The second cousin of former NBA guards Stephon Marbury and Sebastian Telfair, he was born in Brooklyn but signed out of the Dominican Republic for $397,500 in 2022. That would be nuts if the White Sox could pull that one off...pretty much anyone would trade the entire Sox signing group as it stands today for De Paula individually. Expand I don't think they have $3M to trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) On 1/16/2025 at 2:24 AM, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I don't think they have $3M to trade. Expand Well, that's the rub. Almost any team in baseball would CANCEL/VOID roughly 1/2 their entire 2025 international signing class for Josue de Paula ALONE. Wouldn't even have to think twice. As it stands now, the Dodgers have already sacrificed that amount from their earlier projected class with the losses of those three players to the Sox, Pirates and Twins. Edited January 16 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 1:23 AM, Quin said: what Expand Ain't nothing like a Caulfield post cuz a Caulfield post don't stop.... even when it should. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 1:51 AM, caulfield12 said: And now back to regularly-schedule programming... Eric Longenhagen at Fangraphs said there's a RUMOR that Dodgers have a deal to acquire $3M international space for Josue De Paula. Dodgers: Josue De Paula, OF (No. 2/MLB No. 48) Few players in the Minors can match De Paula's combination of hitting ability, power potential and plate discipline, and he slashed .268/.404/.405 with 10 homers and 27 steals in 107 games between two Single-A levels at age 19. The second cousin of former NBA guards Stephon Marbury and Sebastian Telfair, he was born in Brooklyn but signed out of the Dominican Republic for $397,500 in 2022. That would be nuts if the White Sox could pull that one off...pretty much anyone would trade the entire Sox signing group athey s it stands today for De Paula individually. Expand They don't have that much space, but I wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) On 1/16/2025 at 2:44 AM, southsider2k5 said: They don't have that much space, but I wish. Expand $3 million from another team in cap space for dePaula seems pretty much insane, especially after the Dodgers have already lost three more guys. Basically, LAD would have to KNOW they're getting Sasaki, and then there's a ticking tock until JAN 23rd to get as much money as possible to give to Sasaki (it's going to be $8-8.5 million range), plus 20% surcharge on top of that for the posting fee to the Chiba Lotte Marines, so the total cost to LAD would still only be less than $10, or less than one year of TOMMY EDMAN. It is hard to believe the hype on this kid could grow any bigger from Padre's media sources. I hope he does come here, but his decision is still very unclear. I am sure the Dodgers are doing their song and dance to sign him, which is probably just as large as ours with more Japanese names to back them up. They have also been pushing the 6-man rotation idea, which might be of interest to him. The Dodgers would actually have a 7 man rotation with Sasaki...and that doesn't even account for the possibility of another Clayton Kershaw return. gaslampball.com Edited January 16 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 The Sox announced agreements with players from the Dominican Republic, Venezuela and Cuba on Wednesday as part of the international signing period. They came to terms with 16 international players, including Cuban third baseman Alejandro Cruz and Venezuelan outfielder Orlando Patiño, who are ranked by Baseball America as Nos. 17 and 81 prospects in the 2025 international class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 3:52 AM, Lip Man 1 said: The Sox announced agreements with players from the Dominican Republic, Venezuela and Cuba on Wednesday as part of the international signing period. They came to terms with 16 international players, including Cuban third baseman Alejandro Cruz and Venezuelan outfielder Orlando Patiño, who are ranked by Baseball America as Nos. 17 and 81 prospects in the 2025 international class. Expand all will bust out, as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 4:02 AM, joejoesox said: all will bust out, as usual Expand FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WestEddy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 4:05 AM, Sleepy Harold said: Expand Teams probably positioning to sweep up some commits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Hopefully, the 2025 MLB international signing class will turn out much happier. https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckmurr/2025/01/15/2025-mlb-international-signing-class-likely-more-bust-than-bonanza/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Baseball America’s top-100 international board currently links the Padres to Dominican shortstop Jhoan De La Cruz (No. 43), Venezuelan shortstop Deivid Coronil (No. 50), Dominican left-hander Carlos Alvarez (No. 69) and Venezuelan outfielder Sebastian Peña (No. 77). The Padres could attempt to push their handshake deals into the 2026 window, but that’s more complicated than it seems. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2025/01/14/as-international-signing-period-opens-padres-await-roki-sasakis-decision/ https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2025/01/14/tom-krasovic-padres-standing-with-roki-sasaki-a-credit-to-a-j-preller-peter-seidler/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 1:34 AM, Quin said: I've seen it and quote it frequently. Why all the characters' ages (and deaths?) suddenly came up, I don't know. Expand I took it as friendly reminder to appreciate Corbin Bernsen while we still have him. Never even recognized that the commercial guy was the same actor as Pedro Serrano. A shaved head and a goatee really changes a fellow I guess. Since he brought it up good a time as any to post this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) https://www.mlb.com/news/roki-sasaki-finalists-favorites-to-sign-pitcher Likely down to just Dodgers and Padres... For now, only minor signings of $10,000 or less which don’t count against the team’s international bonus pool can be announced for Padres/Dodgers/Blue Jays. Bonus pool money can be traded in increments of $250,000, and teams can acquire up to an additional 60% of what was in their original allotment, meaning the Dodgers potentially could add just over another $3 million to their bonus pool. It’s likely the Padres and Blue Jays also will explore similar deals. At this stage, however, it’s unclear if such a maneuver will be necessary. Sasaki’s primary motivation isn’t believed to be money. And unless one of Sasaki’s three finalists accrued significantly more bonus pool money than the others, the teams’ final offers likely wouldn’t differ by more than a few million at most. There is also the challenge of valuing what additional bonus pool money is worth on this year’s international market. Dodgers’ meeting with Roki Sasaki didn’t include in-person pitches from Ohtani or Yamamoto Dec. 30, 2024 When Shohei Ohtani came to MLB ahead of the 2018 season — under the same restrictions as Sasaki as someone who also was 23 at the time — the Angels traded their third-round selection from the 2017 draft, outfielder Jacob Pearson, to acquire $1 million in extra bonus pool money from the Twins. The Dodgers made a similar move in 2023 to sign highly-touted South Korean pitcher Hyun-Seok Jang, dealing two lower-level pitching prospects to the White Sox for reportedly $1 million in additional bonus pool money. This time rival clubs could drive a harder bargain for trades involving bonus pool money, especially if it’s seen as a determining factor in Sasaki’s decision. On the other hand, his finalists could be wary of giving up prospects for more bonus pool money if they aren’t certain Sasaki will sign with them. While any additional bonus pool money could be used on other international free agents over the remainder of the signing period, most top-ranked players will be off the market in the next few days. https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2025-01-15/dodgers-roki-sasaki-international-signing-period Edited January 16 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 1:51 AM, caulfield12 said: And now back to regularly-schedule programming... Eric Longenhagen at Fangraphs said there's a RUMOR that Dodgers have a deal to acquire $3M international space for Josue De Paula. Dodgers: Josue De Paula, OF (No. 2/MLB No. 48) Few players in the Minors can match De Paula's combination of hitting ability, power potential and plate discipline, and he slashed .268/.404/.405 with 10 homers and 27 steals in 107 games between two Single-A levels at age 19. The second cousin of former NBA guards Stephon Marbury and Sebastian Telfair, he was born in Brooklyn but signed out of the Dominican Republic for $397,500 in 2022. That would be nuts if the White Sox could pull that one off...pretty much anyone would trade the entire Sox signing group as it stands today for De Paula individually. Expand I'm so embarrassed how confused I am but Sosaka is a 2025 signee...so is that now this for the 2025 season that finalizes next january? Or is it the one that just finalized? B/c we don't have 3 million from this last one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 3:06 AM, caulfield12 said: $3 million from another team in cap space for dePaula seems pretty much insane, especially after the Dodgers have already lost three more guys. Basically, LAD would have to KNOW they're getting Sasaki, and then there's a ticking tock until JAN 23rd to get as much money as possible to give to Sasaki (it's going to be $8-8.5 million range), plus 20% surcharge on top of that for the posting fee to the Chiba Lotte Marines, so the total cost to LAD would still only be less than $10, or less than one year of TOMMY EDMAN. It is hard to believe the hype on this kid could grow any bigger from Padre's media sources. I hope he does come here, but his decision is still very unclear. I am sure the Dodgers are doing their song and dance to sign him, which is probably just as large as ours with more Japanese names to back them up. They have also been pushing the 6-man rotation idea, which might be of interest to him. The Dodgers would actually have a 7 man rotation with Sasaki...and that doesn't even account for the possibility of another Clayton Kershaw return. gaslampball.com Expand I would have easily given up an extra 2 million in signings at the bottom of this class to get a total of $3 million freed up to get DePaula. Without a second thought. Sure someone could come back to bite us, but I am betting on DePaula vs the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 4:47 AM, caulfield12 said: Looking Back At 2015 Players signed 10 years ago should be entering their prime. Some have become superstars. Most are struggling in the minors or retired. SAN DIEGO,: Fernando Tatis Jr. of the San Diego Padres celebrates hitting a home run against the Los ... [+] Getty Images A few teams have reaped the bonanza of signing a Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Juan Soto or Julio Rodriguez. Hundreds of others were given millions in signing bonuses and never played in the majors. As pointed out a week ago, the 2015 international class was burgeoning with talent. Guerrero Jr., Soto, Fernando Tatis Jr., Andres Gimenez, Isaac Paredes and Jazz Chisholm Jr. became MLB all-stars. Only eight of the 31 players who signed for $1.5 million or more ever played in the majors. And a couple of them did very little. Not As Good In 2016 In 2016, a total of 33 players signed for $1 million or more. Yordan Alvarez and Randy Arozarena have had some great post-season highlights. Some others such as Luis Garcia Jr., Johan Oviedo, Gabriel Arias, Adrian Morejon and Cionel Perez are trying to become more consistent. ARLINGTON, TX: Randy Arozarena of the Tampa Bay Rays hits a home run against the Los Angeles ... [+] Getty Images Garcia got $1.3 million to sign. In his fifth year with the Washington Nationals in 2024, he had his best season, hitting .282 with 18 homers and 22 stolen bases. Then there are guys like Jorge Ona, who got $7 million from San Diego. The Cuban outfielder played five games in the majors in 2021 and was released in 2023. The Cincinnati Reds paid Cuban shortstop Alfredo Rodriguez $6 million. In seven years in the minors, he totaled 9 homers. He was released in 2022 after hitting .193 with 3 walks and 38 strikeouts in 32 Double-A games. 2017 Had Sad Stories The Seattle Mariners paid Rodriguez $1.75 million. The silky-smooth outfielder has totaled 80 homers, 86 steals and a .277 average the past three years in the majors. He was the 2022 AL Rookie of the Year. SEATTLE: Julio Rodríguez of the Seattle Mariners reacts after doubling home two runs against the ... [+] Getty Images Shortstop Ezequiel Tovar of the Colorado Rockies hit 26 homers this past season. He also had 23 walks and 200 strikeouts. That’s the best news thus far from the class of eight years ago. The oddest story is that of Wander Franco. He may never play again and faces up to 20 years in prison. The shortstop got $3.825 million from the Tampa Bay Rays and three years later was in their lineup at age 20. He signed an 11-year, $182 million contract in 2021 and in 265 career games hit .282 as one of the rising stars in the game. ST PETERSBURG, FLA: Wander Franco of the Tampa Bay Rays reacts after hitting a home run against the ... [+] Getty Images On Aug. 12, 2023, he was put on the restricted list while MLB investigated rumors of him being involved with a minor in the Dominican Republic. Authorities there reportedly uncovered more troubling matters. Franco was due to stand trial in December on charges of sexual abuse, sexual exploitation against a minor and human trafficking. The trial was postponed last month until June 2, 2025. Some of the other top signings from 2017 are still trying to make it. Saddest of all, Daniel Flores never got the chance. He signed for $3.1 million with the Boston Red Sox on July 2, 2017. The switch-hitting catcher from Venezuela trained at the team’s academy in the Dominican Republic that summer. In November 2017, he passed away from cancer. Hopefully, the 2025 MLB international signing class will turn out much happier. https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckmurr/2025/01/15/2025-mlb-international-signing-class-likely-more-bust-than-bonanza/ Expand Dude, we ask this like a million times, but can you only post previews of articles? Not full articles, plus pictures, ads and hot links? If you can't, just post the link and summarize the story yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 2:46 PM, bmags said: I'm so embarrassed how confused I am but Sosaka is a 2025 signee...so is that now this for the 2025 season that finalizes next january? Or is it the one that just finalized? B/c we don't have 3 million from this last one. Expand For the period that just began yesterday. The previous one is dead, ended, and untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 ok it was clear once I got past the norm macdonald videos that this is for the class that just started signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) On 1/16/2025 at 2:46 PM, bmags said: I'm so embarrassed how confused I am but Sosaka is a 2025 signee...so is that now this for the 2025 season that finalizes next january? Or is it the one that just finalized? B/c we don't have 3 million from this last one. Expand Everything is for the class that just started WED. 2025. So the White Sox would have to give up $3 million worth of those announced (yesterday) signings to free up that money to send to LA for dePaula...or for someone from the Padres, depending on how this breaks. Just not sure there's an equivalent in the Padres' system after you get past Salas and deVrieze...who are the two linchpins of their future contending plans, along with Merrill/Tatis/Sasaki. But the Padres somehow are going to be able to offer at least $1.5 million more than LA...but really not sure it even matters in the end about accumulating the most money to offer as this deal has never been primarily about that. Basically if both LAD and SDP max out their pools with 60% over starting points...San Diego can offer $1.9 million more, plus opt outs tied to maintaining a floor on SD payrolls/Preller job change/change of ownership. Edited January 16 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 2:58 PM, bmags said: ok it was clear once I got past the norm macdonald videos that this is for the class that just started signing. Expand The previous year/signing class ended sometime in December (I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) On 1/16/2025 at 3:40 PM, Bob Sacamano said: The previous year/signing class ended sometime in December (I think) Expand Wouldn't it have to be January 14th? Or there's a dead period between the two? "The signing period is now neatly confined to a single calendar year, and runs from Jan. 15 to Dec. 15. To be eligible to sign, players must be at least 16 years old and turn 17 by Sept. 1 of the following year. This year's newly eligible players were born between Sept. 1, 2007, and Aug. 31, 2008." 21 hours ago "None of those three teams have signed anyone for a bonus of over $10,000 per either Baseball America or MLB Pipeline, as they try to keep their bonus pool intact while waiting on Sasaki’s decision. For comparison, as of Wednesday night on Baseball America, the other 27 teams had an average of 14.6 reported international signings, with no other team signing fewer than six players on the first day of the period." https://www.truebluela.com/2025/1/16/24344872/dodgers-roki-sasaki-international-bonus-pool Edited January 16 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 3:43 PM, caulfield12 said: Wouldn't it have to be January 14th? Or there's a dead period between the two? "The signing period is now neatly confined to a single calendar year, and runs from Jan. 15 to Dec. 15. To be eligible to sign, players must be at least 16 years old and turn 17 by Sept. 1 of the following year. This year's newly eligible players were born between Sept. 1, 2007, and Aug. 31, 2008." 21 hours ago "None of those three teams have signed anyone for a bonus of over $10,000 per either Baseball America or MLB Pipeline, as they try to keep their bonus pool intact while waiting on Sasaki’s decision. For comparison, as of Wednesday night on Baseball America, the other 27 teams had an average of 14.6 reported international signings, with no other team signing fewer than six players on the first day of the period." https://www.truebluela.com/2025/1/16/24344872/dodgers-roki-sasaki-international-bonus-pool Expand You posted it right there. Yes, there is a dead period for a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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