WhiteSox2023 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 3 hours ago, Quin said: If Getz lands Sasaki, I'll stop ripping him and give @WestEddy the title of "Getz fan before it was cool." There’s probably a higher chance that Getz will sign Mike Clevinger for a third straight year, prompting @Balta1701 to leave the forum for another season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 Why not offer this young man the opening day starter job, at point why not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 5 minutes ago, Johno said: Why not offer this young man the opening day starter job, at point why not? I doubt that is enough to make him want to sign with the worst team in baseball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 “Yankees acquired RHP Elmer Rodriguez-Cruz and international signing bonus pool money from the Red Sox for C Carlos Narváez. The interesting wrinkle here is the international bonus pool money, which could factor into the impending Roki Sasaki sweepstakes. Rodriguez-Cruz was a fourth-round pick in the 2021 MLB Draft and has yet to pitch above High-A. He’s a lottery ticket for the Yankees.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I doubt that is enough to make him want to sign with the worst team in baseball. While I want to dismiss it out of hand - it actually could. If he's the Opening Day starter and could make the All-Star game, he makes more money and you know there are still voters who would go "OD starter? All-Star?" and give him Rookie of the Year votes based on that. Rookie of the Year gets him to free agency faster. Basically, they need to lean really, really hard on "look what we did with Crochet." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 6 minutes ago, Quin said: While I want to dismiss it out of hand - it actually could. If he's the Opening Day starter and could make the All-Star game, he makes more money and you know there are still voters who would go "OD starter? All-Star?" and give him Rookie of the Year votes based on that. Rookie of the Year gets him to free agency faster. Basically, they need to lean really, really hard on "look what we did with Crochet." Wasn't it Sasaki whose agent said that a smaller market team could wind up with him because he's looking for more of a soft landing in MLB than being "the man" in NYC or LA? I think if the Sox were serious about him, they could certainly make a credible push for Sasaki. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 54 minutes ago, Quin said: While I want to dismiss it out of hand - it actually could. If he's the Opening Day starter and could make the All-Star game, he makes more money and you know there are still voters who would go "OD starter? All-Star?" and give him Rookie of the Year votes based on that. Rookie of the Year gets him to free agency faster. Basically, they need to lean really, really hard on "look what we did with Crochet." 48 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Wasn't it Sasaki whose agent said that a smaller market team could wind up with him because he's looking for more of a soft landing in MLB than being "the man" in NYC or LA? I think if the Sox were serious about him, they could certainly make a credible push for Sasaki. Couldn't you say it would be more stressful though? He's be the immediate star on the team, coming off the worst record in the history of the game. I'm glad they aren't sitting it out, but I have a hard time seeing this kid not choose a team that is better setup to at least give him the chance at the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: Wasn't it Sasaki whose agent said that a smaller market team could wind up with him because he's looking for more of a soft landing in MLB than being "the man" in NYC or LA? I think if the Sox were serious about him, they could certainly make a credible push for Sasaki. Here is the tweet. I doubt he would be happy with the Chicago media, even though the local baseball beat reporters are pretty bad at their jobs. Edited December 12 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: Wasn't it Sasaki whose agent said that a smaller market team could wind up with him because he's looking for more of a soft landing in MLB than being "the man" in NYC or LA? I think if the Sox were serious about him, they could certainly make a credible push for Sasaki. Well we aren’t a “smaller market team.” Just run like one. Edited December 12 by Bob Sacamano 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 If this happened(which, LOL. I can’t even imagine this being an option for him but whatever), feels like a signing that is meant to be traded later. And if he showed up and showed out, and a bunch of good teams were interested, that’s wonderful. Seems like a huge stretch though. Not like when Hawk first started saying “get back there, stretch” and it might be a homer, but more like towards the end and he really didn’t know if it was close to the fence and was guessing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 (edited) Sox offer of a 5 year no cost on additional dipping sauce at all Chicagoland participating Rasing Cane's Chicken Fingers is on the board. Edited December 12 by Falstaff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 14 minutes ago, Falstaff said: Sox offer of a 5 year no cost on additional dipping sauce at all Chicagoland participating Rasing Cane's Chicken Fingers is on the board. Sir, we are offering you free food at this new popular restaurant. The catch is, they offer only one thing, fried chicken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 I mean, as someone making a full-season league minimum salary, he’ll probably be in the top half of the Sox payroll next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 I’m glad they are going after Sasaki because every team should be throwing their name in the hat. Landing him should be near impossible, but one thing Getz appears to be good at is selling his vision to people. And I think there are selling points to be made for the Sox if you can ignore the historically bad team that’s multiple years away from competing. However, if he wants to enjoy the benefits of living in a major market without the pressures of playing for a real large market club he will be hard pressed to find something better. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m glad they are going after Sasaki because every team should be throwing their name in the hat. Landing him should be near impossible, but one thing Getz appears to be good at is selling his vision to people. And I think there are selling points to be made for the Sox if you can ignore the historically bad team that’s multiple years away from competing. However, if he wants to enjoy the benefits of living in a major market without the pressures of playing for a real large market club he will be hard pressed to find something better. This angle, if true, makes me think the Mariners are the better landing spot. Ichiro is a Seattle icon and is still heavily involved with the team, giving him a cultural connection. He'd be joining a stellar rotation where he'd just be another piece and not have to deal with the pressures of being the face of the franchise. They are also much closer to being a contending team than the White Sox, and don't have the baggage of being the worst team in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 17 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: This angle, if true, makes me think the Mariners are the better landing spot. Ichiro is a Seattle icon and is still heavily involved with the team, giving him a cultural connection. He'd be joining a stellar rotation where he'd just be another piece and not have to deal with the pressures of being the face of the franchise. They are also much closer to being a contending team than the White Sox, and don't have the baggage of being the worst team in history. I don't have the exact text of the question that was asked of his agent, but the articles out there strongly suggest that the "mid to small market" description was in reply to a question about the Padres. Quote By Tuesday, Sasaki's agent Joel Wolfe felt confident his client would strongly consider a small-to-mid market team including the San Diego Padres. "I think that there's an argument to be made that a smaller, mid-market team might be more beneficial for him as a soft landing," Wolfe told reporters in Dallas. Wolfe added, "I would assume that would be a team that he would seriously consider." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 It's a meeting with the White Sox. Sasaki's camp is sending their college intern to the meeting. Hoefully they cater Ricobene's for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 On 11/15/2024 at 4:15 AM, hi8is said: Done deal All Getz has to do is reach out to Iguchi ( Sasaki's former manager) and ask him for help and promise him he'll hire him as a coach if Sasaki signs with the Sox. Iguchis been quoted a few years back as wanting to be in a Sox uniform again. What better way to celebrate the 2005 team than to have Iguchi back in uniform and bringing along the pitcher to lead the Sox to their next championship . I'm sure Sasaki must remember Iguchi fondly for trying to set up a program along with the pitching coach to both protect and strengthen him.Certainly Getz could point out how much Garrett Crochet benefitted from how the Sox handled and strengthened him as a selling point to Iguchi who would then convey it to Sasaki. Hey it's more of a connection than a lot of teams have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 (edited) 16 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Here is the tweet. I doubt he would be happy with the Chicago media, even though the local baseball beat reporters are pretty bad at their jobs. Why wouldn't he be happy with the Chicago media ? Apparently some grown men want to manage and coach White Sox players now and in the future. Not everyone cares about how bad they are right now or judge everything White Sox negatively .There are people that have positive dispositions that they use to approach what most see as a bad situation. That's why there are social workers and volunteers during crisises. Help us out brother Sasaki we're a disaster and join the cult of Getz. "Ask not what the White Sox can do for you but what you can do for the White Sox". Chris Getz Balta Style quotes Edited December 12 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 (edited) 18 hours ago, Quin said: While I want to dismiss it out of hand - it actually could. If he's the Opening Day starter and could make the All-Star game, he makes more money and you know there are still voters who would go "OD starter? All-Star?" and give him Rookie of the Year votes based on that. Rookie of the Year gets him to free agency faster. Basically, they need to lean really, really hard on "look what we did with Crochet." That last paragraph is what I just wrote plus how using Iguchi and getting him back in uniform to convey it all to Sasaki. Bam Iguchi at the new rinkydink Soxfest too . Apparently they don't have many attractions to get people to celebrate the 2005 teams' 20th Anniversary. Just need to insulate Iguchi and Sasaki away from the anger that may turn up at the event. I got it all planned out already .Idle hands apparently are the devil's workshop. Edited December 12 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 19 hours ago, Quin said: While I want to dismiss it out of hand - it actually could. If he's the Opening Day starter and could make the All-Star game, he makes more money and you know there are still voters who would go "OD starter? All-Star?" and give him Rookie of the Year votes based on that. Rookie of the Year gets him to free agency faster. Basically, they need to lean really, really hard on "look what we did with Crochet." Wait, does it? ROY gives him a full year if he came up after OD, I think. I don't think ROY wipes out a year of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Wait, does it? ROY gives him a full year if he came up after OD, I think. I don't think ROY wipes out a year of control. If he starts on the roster day 1 (any team he signs with is agreeing to do this) and never gets sent down, he will be a FA after 6 years. You are correct. And we would be awarded a draft pick if he would put him on the roster day 1 and he wins Roy right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: If he starts on the roster day 1 (any team he signs with is agreeing to do this) and never gets sent down, he will be a FA after 6 years. You are correct. And we would be awarded a draft pick if he would put him on the roster day 1 and he wins Roy right? I don't think players from professional Asian leagues qualify for the extra draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I don't think players from professional Asian leagues qualify for the extra draft pick. If he's an amateur signing and is on a rookie deal, why wouldn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 16 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I don't think players from professional Asian leagues qualify for the extra draft pick. He technically doesn't count as a "professional" international player like Yamamoto last year. Also - my bad. Does it just make them Super 2 eligible? I know there was some reason the players pushed for this so hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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