ChiSox59 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 (edited) Guy was brutal first half of last season but was still attractive enough to be traded 2x. He's a useful bench bat, especially if he bounces back to 20-23 form. Sexy? Absolutely not. But decent platoon pairing for Beni in LF and whoever of Fletcher/Colas/Deloach that plays right. I'm assuming it's a pretty cheap 1 year deal, so not much to hand wring about here imo. Edited November 18 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Erick Fedde was signed on December 14th of last year. This was more than a week after the winter meetings, after the rule 5 draft. I would like to know who thought this was too early. Nope https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/white-sox-erick-fedde-agree-to-two-year-contract.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Nope https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/white-sox-erick-fedde-agree-to-two-year-contract.html Agreed to and signed are two different, yet very important, distinctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Agreed to and signed are two different, yet very important, distinctions. Please explain to me why they are in the context of this discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 13 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Nope https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/white-sox-erick-fedde-agree-to-two-year-contract.html Fedde was officially signed on 12/13/2023. https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/roster/transactions/2023/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Fedde was officially signed on 12/13/2023. https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/roster/transactions/2023/12 Yes, which was simply pending a physical for over a week. Terms were agreed to on 12/5. How many starting pitchers were signed before early December last year? If anyone is arguing that Getz wasn’t aggressive in quickly coming to terms and signing Fedde they’re delusional! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 7 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Yes, which was simply pending a physical for over a week. Terms were agreed to on 12/5. How many starting pitchers were signed before early December last year? If anyone is arguing that Getz wasn’t aggressive in quickly coming to terms and signing Fedde they’re delusional! My original point was that Getz is a bit too hasty in signing his targeted scrubs that could perhaps be signed later for a minor league deal. Fedde was signed for 2/$15 and had at least one other suitor (Mets) so he wasn’t in the same category of players that I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 21 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Please explain to me why they are in the context of this discussion Because he was just speaking of roster management in terms of leaving spots open for things like the Rule 5 draft which had already taken place by the time they signed Fedde, which literally proves his point. By agreeing ahead of time, but not signing until the 13th it gave the Sox an extra roster spot to work with during the Winter Meetings and the subsequent Rule 5 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 10 hours ago, bmags said: I'm gonna put $5 on him being DFA'd by June. Is Austin Slater about to produce 10 WAR for the Angels between June and August? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Because he was just speaking of roster management in terms of leaving spots open for things like the Rule 5 draft which had already taken place by the time they signed Fedde, which literally proves his point. By agreeing ahead of time, but not signing until the 13th it gave the Sox an extra roster spot to work with during the Winter Meetings and the subsequent Rule 5 draft. So Getz is…brilliant? I don’t understand the point at all. I’m sure the Sox really needed an extra roster spot in early December lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: My original point was that Getz is a bit too hasty in signing his targeted scrubs that could perhaps be signed later for a minor league deal. Fedde was signed for 2/$15 and had at least one other suitor (Mets) so he wasn’t in the same category of players that I was referring to. And I don’t think that matters. If he waits until February and signs guys that don’t make the team and/or DFAd by June, people are complaining he waited too long to go dumpster diving. I’m too lazy to look it up but I know for a fact at least a handful of posters were saying the Sox overpaid for Fedde too when he was signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Why is this thread 3 pages 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 52 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Nope https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/white-sox-erick-fedde-agree-to-two-year-contract.html Oh ok so it was during the winter meetings. Who said that was early? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 (edited) 30 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: And I don’t think that matters. If he waits until February and signs guys that don’t make the team and/or DFAd by June, people are complaining he waited too long to go dumpster diving. I’m too lazy to look it up but I know for a fact at least a handful of posters were saying the Sox overpaid for Fedde too when he was signed. Yeah I will reiterate what I said earlier and say there’s plenty of fat to trim if the 40-man gets too full. Edited November 19 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 37 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Yes, which was simply pending a physical for over a week. Terms were agreed to on 12/5. How many starting pitchers were signed before early December last year? If anyone is arguing that Getz wasn’t aggressive in quickly coming to terms and signing Fedde they’re delusional! Charlie Morton, Aaron Nola, Reynaldo Lopez, Lance Lynn, Kyle Gibson, Kenta Maeda, Luis Severino, Nick Martinez all agreed before Fedde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 30 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: So Getz is…brilliant? I don’t understand the point at all. I’m sure the Sox really needed an extra roster spot in early December lol That's obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Charlie Morton, Aaron Nola, Reynaldo Lopez, Lance Lynn, Kyle Gibson, Kenta Maeda, Luis Severino, Nick Martinez all agreed before Fedde. So a grand total of 8 guys? Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: That's obvious. Dude, 25% of the 40 man was DFA worthy last December and that’s being very generous. But, yea, Getz was super concerned about the 40 man in regards to the timing of the Fedde signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 36 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: So Getz is…brilliant? I don’t understand the point at all. I’m sure the Sox really needed an extra roster spot in early December lol For the rule 5 draft? Yeah, kinda. If they don’t need to protect someone, select someone. Or see who gets nontendered. This isn’t a bad player to add, but you could plausibly find a platoon guy with years of control remaining and that alone would be a win. If you have to go dumpster diving for guys like this, mid December is fine. Mid November is rushing ahead because this is the top guy you want and you will make sacrifices to have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 30 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Why is this thread 3 pages Not much to discuss! I was wondering the same thing about the Nicky Lopez clearing waivers thread; I blinked and it was four pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 20 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: So a grand total of 8 guys? Cool That’s about 40% of the starting pitching market, for players notable enough to be listed on ESPNs FA tracker. I say about because I’m not sure if Ohtani counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 53 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: And I don’t think that matters. If he waits until February and signs guys that don’t make the team and/or DFAd by June, people are complaining he waited too long to go dumpster diving. I’m too lazy to look it up but I know for a fact at least a handful of posters were saying the Sox overpaid for Fedde too when he was signed. Here’s the thread. a few people thought he’d flop, a Lot of people liked the gamble. One person wondered if it had to be finalized before the Rule 5 draft because the roster slot wound have value - no it didn’t it seems (cough). In terms of accurate evaluations I do enjoy my post in there quoting domestic violence enthusiast Chris Getz saying he expected to be better in 2024 than 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 6 hours ago, JoeC said: Seems like a “wouldn’t be a bad signing if not a Major League contract before Thanksgiving” signing. Like, this seems like an overly-assertive move, compared to what it is / could be. Seems like a guy worth taking a flyer on for sure. But would Slater agree to a minor league deal this early in the offseason? With the White Sox? No chance. The sad and unfortunate state of our team right now is if we like a player like this as a bench piece, we might have to strike this early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 8 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: But would Slater agree to a minor league deal this early in the offseason? With the White Sox? No chance. The sad and unfortunate state of our team right now is if we like a player like this as a bench piece, we might have to strike this early. But on the flip side, if the Sox lose out on signing Austin Slater, does it really matter at all? The only moves that truly matter for this team are the trades of Crochet and Robert and their young players producing. 32-year old Slater will have little to no impact to the Sox next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: And I don’t think that matters. If he waits until February and signs guys that don’t make the team and/or DFAd by June, people are complaining he waited too long to go dumpster diving. I’m too lazy to look it up but I know for a fact at least a handful of posters were saying the Sox overpaid for Fedde too when he was signed. Getz decided to overpay Maldonado on January 5th so I doubt many people would have complained if he held off on some of his dumpster diving signings until February. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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