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WhiteSox2023 Posted November 18 Author Share Posted November 18 @ron883 is hoping the Sox are the team that brings him back. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 (edited) 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: @ron883 is hoping the Sox are the team that brings him back. Better than Vaughn Edit: please no one take this seriously Edited November 18 by Buehrle>Wood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 “The MLB” has got to stop. Abreu? Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 1 hour ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Better than Vaughn Edit: please no one take this seriously Non-tender Vaughn, sign Abreu to a minor league contract with an invite to spring training and a minimal salary if he makes the big league team? I'd prefer that to keeping Vaughn. Gets rid of vaughn, who just hasn't worked, and keeps options open for others to come in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 19 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Non-tender Vaughn, sign Abreu to a minor league contract with an invite to spring training and a minimal salary if he makes the big league team? I'd prefer that to keeping Vaughn. Gets rid of vaughn, who just hasn't worked, and keeps options open for others to come in. Not a bad plan. Or sign Jose and keep Vaughn. They can split time playing 1B and DHing. Get rid of Sheets, not Vaughn. I think this could work out. Jose must be lifting and pulling again if he has 4 homers. And Vaughn like it or not is our best hitter. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 I'd absolutely bring Jose back on an milb deal if they move on from AV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 19 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I'd absolutely bring Jose back on an milb deal if they move on from AV. If we are going to waste money on "LeAdErShIp" it might as well be with some who is actually well respected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If we are going to waste money on "LeAdErShIp" it might as well be with some who is actually well respected. I mean, Jose is getting paid $20M in 25 by the Astros. He'd cost the pro rated minimum. He's probably toast, but it'd be cheap toast at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If we are going to waste money on "LeAdErShIp" it might as well be with some who is actually well respected. Please do not give him the Maldonado contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Please do not give him the Maldonado contract. They literally can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 9 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: They literally can't. How do the rules work on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 I still have never seen any evidence that he was some sort of team leader. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: How do the rules work on this? Hes getting paid full contract from Astros minus league minimum wherever he signs. Edited November 19 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 19 Author Share Posted November 19 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: How do the rules work on this? I think this is what @ChiSox59 is referring to but hopefully he can correct me if I’m wrong… https://www.purplerow.com/2009/2/19/762532/mlb-transactions-part-thre Quote In addition, a player with 3 years of major league service may refuse an outright assignment and choose to become a free agent, regardless of whether he has been sent outright to the minors previously. A player with five or more years of ML service time, as with minor league options, is given even more rights. The player cannot be outrighted even once without Veteran's Consent, even if he clears waivers. If the player refuses his assignment to the minors, the team must either release him, making him a free agent, or keep him on the major league roster. Regardless, in the case of the five-year service player, the team is obligated to pay the player under the terms of his guaranteed contract. If he is released and signs with a new team, his previous team must pay the difference in salary between the two contracts if the previous contract called for a greater salary. Edited November 19 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 9 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: I still have never seen any evidence that he was some sort of team leader. The time that Lopez felt something in his elbow, Renteria went out to the mound, Lopez said everything was fine so Renteria went back to the dugout, Abreu walked to the mound, asked him what was up, got a different answer, and Abreu called the trainer back out and Lopez wound up with a short preventative 15 day IL trip was a pretty good day of out-managing the coach for Abreu. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Think it was more about work ethic than actually being a vocal type leader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: If we are going to waste money on "LeAdErShIp" it might as well be with some who is actually well respected. Someone like Salvy? I wish it was offseason 2023 and the worst thing we could’ve done was trade for Perez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 6 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: @ron883 is hoping the Sox are the team that brings him back. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Like bees to honey...with the added bonus of a political twist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 https://www.soxon35th.com/report-jose-abreu-drawing-interest-from-mlb-teams-deal-imminent/ If we're going to lose, let's lose with guys that play hard and are likable. Eventually he should be allowed to sign a one day contract if he wants and retire as a White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 17 hours ago, greg775 said: Not a bad plan. Or sign Jose and keep Vaughn. They can split time playing 1B and DHing. Get rid of Sheets, not Vaughn. I think this could work out. Jose must be lifting and pulling again if he has 4 homers. And Vaughn like it or not is our best hitter. Yikes. I'd probably just keep Vaughn another year to give you 70-80 RBIs on a bad team again, and maybe you get lucky and he improves a bit. They're not going to spend in FA and they don't have anybody in the system to take his spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Jose Abreu is my favorite player of the last 10 years. He is also 100% washed up. We saw it in Houston. Him beating up on lower level competition doesn't change that. I can't believe an option has been presented that makes Vaughn look good, but... please just keep Vaughn if this is the alternative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Pass, no thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 41 minutes ago, almagest said: Jose Abreu is my favorite player of the last 10 years. He is also 100% washed up. We saw it in Houston. Him beating up on lower level competition doesn't change that. I can't believe an option has been presented that makes Vaughn look good, but... please just keep Vaughn if this is the alternative. This is exactly how I have felt about almost every move made in the year and a half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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