Should Sox pursue Carson Kelly

[Balta1701]

6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Nope. I never said "Zavala was a solid success". The convo was hidden because multiple admins were so owned they wept. 

I will type this slowly. Zavala's defensive advancement was an example of the White Sox' new ability to develop the defensive side of a catcher's game. 

They released Zavala in September to get Lee reps.

By pointing out this series of transactions you make a convincing case that the White Sox don't care about the defensive side of a catcher's game.

[WestEddy]

5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

By pointing out this series of transactions you make a convincing case that the White Sox don't care about the defensive side of a catcher's game.

Not once they feel they have the ability to develop it in their prospects, no. And in the lost season of 2023, why give a month's worth of reps to Zavala instead of seeing what they just acquired in Lee?

Zavala's a backup catcher. Multiple teams have moved on from him in order to facilitate another roster move. It's really not that hard to understand. 

Edited 5 hours ago by WestEddy

[caulfield12]

The best we can about Zavala is he knocked off Zack Collins…but that doesn’t exactly scream developmental success, either.

[southsider2k5]

11 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Nope. I never said "Zavala was a solid success". The convo was hidden because multiple admins were so owned they wept. 

I will type this slowly. Zavala's defensive advancement was an example of the White Sox' new ability to develop the defensive side of a catcher's game. 

They released Zavala in September to get Lee reps.

So hurt by it, they keep dragging their hurt feelings into these threads  a year +  later.  Oh right...

[Balta1701]

2 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Not once they feel they have the ability to develop it in their prospects, no. And in the lost season of 2023, why give a month's worth of reps to Zavala instead of seeing what they just acquired in Lee?

Because they could have easily designated Grandal for assignment or sent Perez (who started 6 games in the last 2 months) to Charlotte instead. But, they didn't care about Zavala's better defense. 

[Bob Sacamano]

4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Because they could have easily designated Grandal for assignment or sent Perez (who started 6 games in the last 2 months) to Charlotte instead. But, they didn't care about Zavala's better defense. 

This is what they should have done and what everyone said at the time.

Edited 5 hours ago by Bob Sacamano

[Dick Allen]

1 hour ago, almagest said:

The new bench coach was responsible for the Brewers catchers becoming so good at pitch framing.

https://brewerfanatic.com/news-rumors/milwaukee-brewers/walker-mckinven-could-be-the-brewers-most-impactful-offseason-coaching-loss-r2814/

Framing won't matter the next season the White Sox lose less than 100 games.

[almagest]

11 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Framing won't matter the next season the White Sox lose less than 100 games.

So should they not hire guys to turn mediocre to terrible areas into potential strengths?

[WestEddy]

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

So hurt by it, they keep dragging their hurt feelings into these threads  a year +  later.  Oh right...

You're the one who has to post a picture of Baghdad Bob when a comment string gets above your head. 

[WestEddy]

1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:

Because they could have easily designated Grandal for assignment or sent Perez (who started 6 games in the last 2 months) to Charlotte instead. But, they didn't care about Zavala's better defense. 

You keep trying to argue straw men. I hope you win those arguments with whomever is making them. 

[ChiSox59]

I sure hope Quero isn't on the OF roster. Terrible short sighted roster management. I doubt Chuckie Robinson survives the offseason on the 40 man, so we'll need another catcher but I'd just give Lee the vast majority of the work until Quero earns his promotion, sometime in May. I'd probably just bring in a couple milb invite and see who wins the job. Or could just let Hackenburg get a taste. 

[Timmy U]

27 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

I sure hope Quero isn't on the OF roster. Terrible short sighted roster management. I doubt Chuckie Robinson survives the offseason on the 40 man, so we'll need another catcher but I'd just give Lee the vast majority of the work until Quero earns his promotion, sometime in May. I'd probably just bring in a couple milb invite and see who wins the job. Or could just let Hackenburg get a taste. 

For the extra year? Before he got hurt Quero was tearing up AAA. I can see manipulating his service time but Quero is already a better receiver and game caller than Lee. And he is miles better as a hitter.

[southsider2k5]

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

You're the one who has to post a picture of Baghdad Bob when a comment string gets above your head. 

And you are the one who brings up your L's from last year when you get beaten.

[WhiteSox2023]

8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

And you are the one who brings up your L's from last year when you get beaten.

One could play that game all day long with the stuff he said last year…

[46DidIt]