Soxbadger Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 It seems the Met's are trading Piazza and I was just wondering what his value is on the trade block? I do not think he is an option for the Sox, or that we even want him, just that the Mets are interested in Koch, and maybe Piazza could play a role in a 3 team trade. The stumbling block seems that the Mets want Cedeno to go to the Sox, but the Sox want not part of that. But if the Mets free up 15mil from their salary, they could take Koch with out us getting Cedeno. So I was wondering what value would the Mets be seeking for Piazza? because some team might be out there that does not want Koch, but would be interested in Piazza, and have a player we want. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Right now there is no way in hell I think we need a catcher. We have Burke who is shining in this organization, Olivo on the rise, and veteran experience at Santos Alomar, Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 You may have something about a multi-team, multi-player trade. I don't think we could use Piazza either unless Konerko leaves and then maybe Piazza and Thomas could share 1B and DH duties. I think I would want Piazza before Cedeno though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 You may have something about a multi-team, multi-player trade. I don't think we could use Piazza either unless Konerko leaves and then maybe Piazza and Thomas could share 1B and DH duties. I think I would want Piazza before Cedeno though. Its not happening, thread closed, jeez louise...I mean Piazza will be shopped but KW won't trade for him, the Pirates are the ones who need a catcher if kendall is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 15, 2003 Author Share Posted November 15, 2003 I specifically stated the Sox would not be getting Piazza. Yet all of the replys are to that question. I think the Sox have no want for Piazza, But LA, Mariners, etc might be interested. I was saying that Piazza might be moved by the mets in a 3 team deal, with them getting Koch. I do not think the Sox are getting Piazza Jeez SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Right now there is no way in hell I think we need a catcher. We have Burke who is shining in this organization, Olivo on the rise, and veteran experience at Santos Alomar, Jr. Hello!!! For 1 If the Sox got Piazza i would be happy. Not to catch but to DH. That's why the mets are going to trade him cause he can't catch. Jamie Burke sucks and is a Journey man and about 32 years old. Olivo is the regular with Sandy and Mike Rivera at AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 I specifically stated the Sox would not be getting Piazza. Yet all of the replys are to that question. I think the Sox have no want for Piazza, But LA, Mariners, etc might be interested. I was saying that Piazza might be moved by the mets in a 3 team deal, with them getting Koch. I do not think the Sox are getting Piazza Jeez SB I'm sorry, i read it wrong. Yes that would make sense tho, good point. But the question is; who would we get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 15, 2003 Author Share Posted November 15, 2003 I dont know. You have to determine what Piazza is worth, which could be very high to almost a salary dump. The Mets are trying to get rid of payroll, Piazza is 15mil worth. I could see a lot of AL teams wanting Piazza. A great hitting catcher who can dh. I was thinking the M's, because their production from catcher sucked, and Edgar only has one year left. He could catch this year, and then move into 1b/dh role. The M's would trade us Freddy Garcia. So for us its Koch for Garcia The M's would probably have to give the Mets more or take Cedeno. thinking crazy I could see it evolve into this: Mets get: Magglio, Koch, Cirillo. Mariners Get: Piazza, Cedeno, Valentine White Sox get: Floyd, Garcia, Guillen. Sox lose, 25 mil in payroll, gain 13 mil. Net loss: 12 mil Mets lose, 21 mil payroll, gain 23 mil, net gain : 2mil Mariners lose 13 mil payroll, gain 25mil, net gain: 12mil The sox might have to take about 6mil from the mariners some how, so that it would even out money wise. The Mets gain an all star outfielder, the reliever they wanted and only gain 2mil The Mariners lose only 1 player they want Guillen, and get a ss that has power, an all star catcher with health issues, and Cedeno who could play outfield with ichiro in CF, or who could be on the bench. The Sox gain a starting pitcher with some up side a good shortstop, and an outfielder from the left side. Im sure nothing like this will happen, but in the day and age of money is king, 3 team trades will become much more comon. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Beastly, what in the world are you talking about with Jamie Burke? Perhaps you should reconsider what you post before it's posted if you ever want to be taken seriously. Just some food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Even though Piazza wants out, it would not surprise me at all if the Mets hung on to him for 3 reasons. 1) His value would be higher if he were to have a solid first half playing first base 2) There will not be a lot of interest for taking Piazza in exchange for a decent player right now 3) The mets have no reason to hurry in getting rid of him. They have a lot of offensive weapons, and have money to get pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 The Angels could be an option for a 3rd team maybe, cos they r interested in Piazza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 The Angels could be an option for a 3rd team maybe, cos they r interested in Piazza. And Piazza would play what Position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Beastly, what in the world are you talking about with Jamie Burke? Perhaps you should reconsider what you post before it's posted if you ever want to be taken seriously. Just some food for thought. No. I like what I saw when I scouted him last year. I was sitting to some scouts from Boston and Tampa Bay and they told me what they thought of him and said this kids got a future as a defensive catcher... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 No. I like what I saw when I scouted him last year. I was sitting to some scouts from Boston and Tampa Bay and they told me what they thought of him and said this kids got a future as a defensive catcher... Kid ain't exactly the word for him... He's a 32 year old AAAA catcher with 4 hits in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Kid ain't exactly the word for him... He's a 32 year old AAAA catcher with 4 hits in his career. Correct but honestly, thats what they said...i dunno...forget it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Correct but honestly, thats what they said...i dunno...forget it Those must be some dumb-ass scouts then. Glad they're not workin for this organisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Maybe they were Cub Scouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Its not happening, thread closed, jeez louise...I mean Piazza will be shopped but KW won't trade for him, the Pirates are the ones who need a catcher if kendall is gone Did I say that we were going to trade for Piazza? No, I didn't so please excuse me and don't act so frustrated that someone might even bring it up. Thinking that Piazza might play a role with the Sox is no worse then some of the stuff that has been posted here and is in keeping with what the off season is all about and that's dreaming about the 2004 Sox. We do too much criticizing of our fellow posters. However, maybe it just seems that way cause we don't have the luxury of sitting around a table after work and sharing a beer while good naturedly bantering about the team we love?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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