Andrew Benintendi on the trade market (duh)

[GreenSox]

4 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

https://www.soxon35th.com/report-white-sox-outfielder-andrew-benintendi-on-the-trade-market/

Will they include him in a Crochet trade.  Will they find a way to move him in another deal. Will they eat some money and if so how much.

 

Are they willing to send $30 million to the acquiring team?

[WhiteSox2023]

45 minutes ago, tray said:

Keep Crochet. Our rotation could be incredible with him and Noah Schultz at the top. They both have the ability to dominate line-ups.

Sure, but it’s obvious Jerry doesn’t want to spend money on him or good free agent position players.  So Getz is going to trade him for position player prospects.

[hi8is]

Hopefully Getz is shopping him more so as an actual asset knowing we care fuckall about winning the next few years.

[Harold's Leg Lift]

1 hour ago, GreenSox said:

Are they willing to send $30 million to the acquiring team?

I have no idea.

[caulfield12]

13 hours ago, 46DidIt said:

“In these particular discussions, an unnamed team proposed taking on all or most of Benintendi’s remaining contract. Whether the White Sox seriously entertained this idea is unknown”

 

Not sure how that substantiates the claim the Sox want to package him with Crochet

Who else on the Sox carries the type of value to eat $50 million for…?

Schultz Smith or Montgomery are the only other names that are halfway plausible.

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

If they trade Beni, Robert, and Crochet, projected payroll sits at ~$30M. Only the A’s are projected for less. 

[WhiteSox2023]

11 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

If they trade Beni, Robert, and Crochet, projected payroll sits at ~$30M. Only the A’s are projected for less. 

Yep, pretty crazy.  Jerry is going to be banking those savings.  Yet another long rebuild means more $$$.

Edited 5 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[zisk]

just let beni & robert stay and play til june. we don't have anyone to replace them any way. 

[Balta1701]

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Yep, pretty crazy.  Jerry is going to be banking those savings.  Yet another long rebuild means more $$$.

Financially, the other reason multi year deals are problematic is that they have to be paid regardless of the revenue stream or financial status of the owner.

If the team was sold, the new owners would need to have that $50 million in available liquid assets, cash not stock.

If the team plays two seasons in a AAA ballpark in Nashville, they have to pay that deal regardless of their ticket and broadcast revenue. 

Clearing out long term expenses is a hedge against uncertainty, when you expect the near term revenue to be unstable as would happen if a team was moved and money had to be raised to construct a new ballpark.

[Balta1701]

11 minutes ago, zisk said:

just let beni & robert stay and play til june. we don't have anyone to replace them any way. 

You didn’t notice that their number one priority this offseason was a platoon corner OF?

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

If they trade Beni, Robert, and Crochet, projected payroll sits at ~$30M. Only the A’s are projected for less. 

I don’t think Robert is traded until the deadline and no one is taking Benintendi unless he’s paired with Crochet.  I still don’t believe they would actually do that.

[Chicago White Sox]

37 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

You didn’t notice that their number one priority this offseason was a platoon corner OF?

Can we stop with this nonsense?  We have no reason to believe (yet) that Slater was anything but their #1 target for a weak-side platoon OF role.  If this ends up being their most expensive free agent addition then flame away, but it seems very apparent to me that Slater’s comment should be taken in the context of his specific role.

[Chicago White Sox]

41 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Financially, the other reason multi year deals are problematic is that they have to be paid regardless of the revenue stream or financial status of the owner.

If the team was sold, the new owners would need to have that $50 million in available liquid assets, cash not stock.

If the team plays two seasons in a AAA ballpark in Nashville, they have to pay that deal regardless of their ticket and broadcast revenue. 

Clearing out long term expenses is a hedge against uncertainty, when you expect the near term revenue to be unstable as would happen if a team was moved and money had to be raised to construct a new ballpark.

Is this a real post?

[poppysox]

Benintendi is fine if he plays like the end of last season.  Keep Crochet and Robert and bring up Montgomery, Quero, and Schultz.  Spend on a few medium-priced free agents to see if the WS can be respectable.  There won't be a future fan base if today's kids don't have some "stars" to admire.  I can't believe Jerry wants to leave with this current situation as his legacy.

[WhiteSox2023]

34 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Can we stop with this nonsense?  We have no reason to believe (yet) that Slater was anything but their #1 target for a weak-side platoon OF role.  If this ends up being their most expensive free agent addition then flame away, but it seems very apparent to me that Slater’s comment should be taken in the context of his specific role.

I mean, we already know Getz isn’t spending much this offseason in free agency.  He said so himself two months ago.

”The Kids Can Play.”

 

Edited 3 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[ChiSox59]

14 hours ago, tray said:

Keep Crochet. Our rotation could be incredible with him and Noah Schultz at the top. They both have the ability to dominate line-ups.

For the half season they're on the major league club together (if both are healthy), on an (at best) 85-90 loss team, and then watch Crochet go to FA without any return but a potential comp pick? 

[ChiSox59]

44 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Can we stop with this nonsense?  We have no reason to believe (yet) that Slater was anything but their #1 target for a weak-side platoon OF role.  If this ends up being their most expensive free agent addition then flame away, but it seems very apparent to me that Slater’s comment should be taken in the context of his specific role.

Honestly, what's even the point in spending $ in free agency this offseason? They should just see what they have with the fringe guys. 

[southsider2k5]

6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Honestly, what's even the point in spending $ in free agency this offseason? They should just see what they have with the fringe guys. 

Literally they should just be shopping for flip candidates and looking to fill ABs and IPs to keep from rushing important guys.  That's it.  I honestly don't care if they spend zero this off season, as there is nothing out there to help them in the few years anyway.  Best case is to get someone in a trade from some flip candidate this year.  Maybe you get a reliever, or luck out and have your scouting actually work and find a starter somehow.

[Chicago White Sox]

40 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I mean, we already know Getz isn’t spending much this offseason in free agency.  He said so himself two months ago.

”The Kids Can Play.”

 

I know that and don’t get me wrong, it’s all somewhat embarrassing, but there is a difference between a $2M bench piece and an Erick Fedde caliber signing and I feel pretty confident they will add a guy or two in that range of a deal.  Ultimately there is plenty we can rip Getz for that we don’t need to purposely take a second hand comment out of context to do so.

[Chicago White Sox]

31 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Honestly, what's even the point in spending $ in free agency this offseason? They should just see what they have with the fringe guys. 

I fully agree.  But I would say the optics of a $2M signing being our biggest and only real addition would be bad.  I still think they add a couple more pieces to fill out the roster, but zero reason to sign C tier free agents to block the fringe prospects we already have in place like DeLoach, Fletcher, Sosa, & Lee IMO.

[nrockway]

58 minutes ago, poppysox said:

Benintendi is fine if he plays like the end of last season.  Keep Crochet and Robert and bring up Montgomery, Quero, and Schultz.  Spend on a few medium-priced free agents to see if the WS can be respectable.  There won't be a future fan base if today's kids don't have some "stars" to admire.  I can't believe Jerry wants to leave with this current situation as his legacy.

Right, seems pointless to shop him now. If he can just hit for his career average numbers next season, he looks a whole lot better with only two years left on the deal. I can't imagine a scenario where the Sox eat $50 mil or whatever he's still owed. Some team might take on $30mil in salary if he can produce 3 WAR next season.

[ChiSox59]

38 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Literally they should just be shopping for flip candidates and looking to fill ABs and IPs to keep from rushing important guys.  That's it.  I honestly don't care if they spend zero this off season, as there is nothing out there to help them in the few years anyway.  Best case is to get someone in a trade from some flip candidate this year.  Maybe you get a reliever, or luck out and have your scouting actually work and find a starter somehow.

19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I fully agree.  But I would say the optics of a $2M signing being our biggest and only real addition would be bad.  I still think they add a couple more pieces to fill out the roster, but zero reason to sign C tier free agents to block the fringe prospects we already have in place like DeLoach, Fletcher, Sosa, & Lee IMO.

I could see spending some $ on a SP and a reliever or two as flips.  Maybe a SS to hold down the fort until Colson is ready, but I'd just let Baldwin have a crack at it with Sosa holding down 2B. Otherwise an milb deal catcher or two, and they should be fine.  Plus whatever mlb ready positional prospect they bring in with Crochet deal. 

[steveno89]

16 hours ago, tray said:

Keep Crochet. Our rotation could be incredible with him and Noah Schultz at the top. They both have the ability to dominate line-ups.

Think you are forgetting about the offense just a little bit...