southsider2k5 Posted December 1 Author Share Posted December 1 5 hours ago, KennyPowers said: https://fansided.com/mlb-rumors-yankees-luis-robert-trade-white-sox-salvage-cashman-blunder A 1:1 deal achieves nothing. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: A 1:1 deal achieves nothing. That’s not necessarily true. Dominguez has significantly more control and is a lot cheaper. That said I’d rather keep Robert for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 20 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: A 1:1 deal achieves nothing. I would do that deal every day of the week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 37 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: A 1:1 deal achieves nothing. And it’s 2:1 deal with the Sox sending another out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: A 1:1 deal achieves nothing. It achieves getting a player that could contribute to the next possible winning team, which is the whole point. But it doesn’t matter because I don’t see a scenario in which the Yankees would do this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: And it’s 2:1 deal with the Sox sending another out. This was the proposed trade and I would’ve accepted it yesterday… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: This was the proposed trade and I would’ve accepted it yesterday… Yeah I'm taking that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 NO, I’m not taking that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2 Author Share Posted December 2 3 hours ago, Lyle Moooton said: It achieves getting a player that could contribute to the next possible winning team, which is the whole point. But it doesn’t matter because I don’t see a scenario in which the Yankees would do this. And we waste 5 years trying to get the other 9 hitters around him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: And we waste 5 years trying to get the other 9 hitters around him. The rebuild needs foundational pieces, but with the state of the org this scenario seems likely. We’d be looking to trade him for a haul by the time they are decent again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 12 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: And we waste 5 years trying to get the other 9 hitters around him. If you could theoretically get Dominguez for Robert & Eder (which I don’t think is remotely realistic) and then add a couple of positional guys in a Crochet trade (say Mayer & Montgomery from the Red Sox) then is a chance of putting together a competent lineup much sooner. 1B: <Free Agent> 2B: Baldwin# / Ramos SS: Mayer* 3B: Montgomery* LF: Dominguez# CF: <Free Agent> RF: Montgomery# DH: <Free Agent> CA: Quero# There’s a potential core there with only one premium spot that would liekly require an outside addition, but the margin for error would be thin. Still I’d take my shot on Dominguez then I hope I can do better in a Robert trade eight months from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3 Author Share Posted December 3 https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5964631/2024/12/02/clay-holmes-mlb-offseason-news?source=user-shared-article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 (edited) On 12/1/2024 at 6:04 PM, Johno said: NO, I’m not taking that!! Why not? Eder is a just a throw-in. He’s terrible with a career minor league ERA over 5. Meanwhile, the Sox would be getting back a top MLB CF prospect for Robert. The only ones not accepting that deal are the Yankees. Edited December 3 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 36 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Why not? Eder is a just a throw-in. He’s terrible with a career minor league ERA over 5. Meanwhile, the Sox would be getting back a top MLB CF prospect for Robert. The only ones not accepting that deal are the Yankees. From what I have read, he’s a terrible defender and passable in a corner. I think he’s an inflated Yankee prospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 (edited) Jim Bowden proposal in The Athletic: White Sox Give: CF Luis Robert White Sox Get: 3B Cam Collier (20 years old | Y22 1st round pick | #5 org prospect) SS Tyson Lewis (18 years old | Y24 2nd round pick | #9 org prospect) RHP Luke Holman (21 years old | Y24 CB-B pick | #11 to #15 org prospect) I would accept that offer in a heartbeat. Edited December 5 by Chicago White Sox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Jim Bowden proposal in The Athletic: White Sox Give: LHP Garrett Crochet White Sox Get: 3B Cam Collier (20 years old | Y22 1st round pick | #5 org prospect) SS Tyson Lewis (18 years old | Y24 2nd round pick | #9 org prospect) RHP Luke Holman (21 years old | Y24 CB-B pick | #11 to #15 org prospect) I would accept that offer in a heartbeat. How does he post that and the Red Sox proposal in the same article (I assume it’s the same). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: How does he post that and the Red Sox proposal in the same article (I assume it’s the same). Same article. He’s just got very weird views on things and doesn’t understand in the Red Sox deal that we don’t want a bunch of guys under control for four or five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Same article. He’s just got very weird views on things and doesn’t understand in the Red Sox deal that we don’t want a bunch of guys under control for four or five years. Yeah, it’s not like they’re the missing pieces to a team ready to compete. Dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Jim Bowden proposal in The Athletic: White Sox Give: LHP Garrett Crochet White Sox Get: 3B Cam Collier (20 years old | Y22 1st round pick | #5 org prospect) SS Tyson Lewis (18 years old | Y24 2nd round pick | #9 org prospect) RHP Luke Holman (21 years old | Y24 CB-B pick | #11 to #15 org prospect) I would accept that offer in a heartbeat. Seems weak to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 10 minutes ago, fathom said: Seems weak to me Sorry, that’s supposed to be for Robert, which makes a big difference. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sorry, that’s supposed to be for Robert, which makes a big difference. Yep, just saw that…and Reds would never do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Yep, just saw that…and Reds would never do that Oh I fully agree, but I would if I were the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 1 hour ago, fathom said: Yep, just saw that…and Reds would never do that Reds have made plenty of nonsensical moves so not so sure about that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 12/2/2024 at 5:00 PM, southsider2k5 said: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5964631/2024/12/02/clay-holmes-mlb-offseason-news?source=user-shared-article I dont see why rival teams find this position unreasonable. Yeah he had a bad year. We're not asking for 70m or whatever in SV anymore or even 40-50m it seems. But yeah you will prolly need to give us a single 55 FV player that prolly is worth 30m SV or a little more. We shouldn't give him away for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 7 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: I dont see why rival teams find this position unreasonable. Yeah he had a bad year. We're not asking for 70m or whatever in SV anymore or even 40-50m it seems. But yeah you will prolly need to give us a single 55 FV player that prolly is worth 30m SV or a little more. We shouldn't give him away for free. Where are you getting this from? You don’t know what kind of value they are asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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