Rusty_Kuntz Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 4 hours ago, Boopa1219 said: The Sox should prioritize bats, but they are so far away from contention that I don’t get trading for specific positions. They need all the talent they can get, especially now. Just said what I would prefer, not that they should trade for a specific position. I do think if they trade Robert it will be for a primary prospect who they think will play up the middle, though, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted Monday at 01:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:01 PM 14 hours ago, oldsox said: Phillies. Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted Monday at 01:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:47 PM 12 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Crawford is an athlete right now who doesn’t run great routes and hits a lot of grounders, but also has great tools and held his own as a 20 year old in AA. He is still a work in progress, but I personally think the upside is worst the risk. Something is telling me the White Sox aren’t the organization that will teach him the things he needs to work on. Besides, if he’s taking bad routes, I don’t know how that is fixable. Going after balls is mostly instinct. If it isn’t there, it isn’t there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted Monday at 05:40 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:40 PM The #Yankees have checked in with the #WhiteSox on CF Luis Robert Jr’s availability as a backup plan to Cody Bellinger. The Yankees are looking for an option to play Centerfield to allow Aaron Judge to go back to rightfield next season — Bartolo's Colonoscopy (@lakeview487) December 16, 2024 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Monday at 05:58 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:58 PM 20 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Don't really like them as a trade partner but can't hurt to have them in the mix I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted Monday at 06:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:30 PM 34 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Don't really like them as a trade partner but can't hurt to have them in the mix I guess. Anything that makes the Reds panic and throw in their 2025 competitive balance draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Monday at 06:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:37 PM 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Anything that makes the Reds panic and throw in their 2025 competitive balance draft pick. Arroya Sirota (don't know much about him, just have seen his name tossed around here) Lesser pitcher Competitive Balance Pick Would people take this deal right now for Robert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted Monday at 07:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:12 PM 36 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Arroya Sirota (don't know much about him, just have seen his name tossed around here) Lesser pitcher Competitive Balance Pick Would people take this deal right now for Robert? That just seems like a major overpay by the Reds. I would think Arroyo straight up is closer to reality, imo. Reds fans are more in line with your proposal though, which is good to see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Monday at 07:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:14 PM 3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: That just seems like a major overpay by the Reds. I would think Arroyo straight up is closer to reality, imo. Reds fans are more in line with your proposal though, which is good to see. Yeah it probably is a bit of an overpay right now. It's their #3, #14, and the pitcher could even be outside of their top 30 for all I care. Or no 4th piece needed if you get those first 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted Monday at 07:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:22 PM 8 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Yeah it probably is a bit of an overpay right now. It's their #3, #14, and the pitcher could even be outside of their top 30 for all I care. Or no 4th piece needed if you get those first 3. I think Getz wants that draft pick. And what we're thinking is too much, just listening to the FutureSox podcast, they brought up there's not many pure CFs on the market, so as Santander and Bellinger shake out, somebody might wind up on the outside looking in, and pull the trigger at close to the price tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted Monday at 08:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:42 PM 6 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Something is telling me the White Sox aren’t the organization that will teach him the things he needs to work on. Besides, if he’s taking bad routes, I don’t know how that is fixable. Going after balls is mostly instinct. If it isn’t there, it isn’t there. If you have to think, you are already half a step behind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted Monday at 08:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:43 PM Seems like Sox fans are down on Robert and would rather sell low. BTV has him around $13m in surplus (less then 3war/season). The prospects you get at that level would be pretty risky imo. If you hold onto him for the first half and he tears it up, then his surplus could almost triple. 4war would be $80 in value over 2.5 years with about $47.5m in cost. Its a contract year for him so I would hold at $13m in surplus value. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted Monday at 09:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:50 PM 1 hour ago, striker said: Seems like Sox fans are down on Robert and would rather sell low. BTV has him around $13m in surplus (less then 3war/season). The prospects you get at that level would be pretty risky imo. If you hold onto him for the first half and he tears it up, then his surplus could almost triple. 4war would be $80 in value over 2.5 years with about $47.5m in cost. Its a contract year for him so I would hold at $13m in surplus value. The smart play is to hold onto him and hope he has a great an injury free first half. The problem is the guy has done nothing but let me down, so I don't know if I think it's possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Tuesday at 12:57 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:57 AM 5 hours ago, WestEddy said: I think Getz wants that draft pick. And what we're thinking is too much, just listening to the FutureSox podcast, they brought up there's not many pure CFs on the market, so as Santander and Bellinger shake out, somebody might wind up on the outside looking in, and pull the trigger at close to the price tag. Bellinger is the CFer there...definitely not Santander. He would push Judge back to RF in NY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted Tuesday at 01:02 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:02 AM 13 hours ago, Rusty_Kuntz said: Just said what I would prefer, not that they should trade for a specific position. I do think if they trade Robert it will be for a primary prospect who they think will play up the middle, though, That seems to be the MO of Getz and this rebuild, he’s doing the classic up the middle approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted Tuesday at 01:04 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:04 AM 4 hours ago, striker said: Seems like Sox fans are down on Robert and would rather sell low. BTV has him around $13m in surplus (less then 3war/season). The prospects you get at that level would be pretty risky imo. If you hold onto him for the first half and he tears it up, then his surplus could almost triple. 4war would be $80 in value over 2.5 years with about $47.5m in cost. Its a contract year for him so I would hold at $13m in surplus value. Getz already said he isn't going to give him away just because of last year so I doubt he will accept 13m SV for him. He seemed to suggest it was "refreshing" that other GMs seemed to agree that he had more value than just recent results. Interestingly, Arroyo from the Reds and Petty from the Reds both have around 13m SV each, so thats around 26-27 combined, I think most of us would take those two for Robert for sure, especially if our scouts believe Arroyo can not just stick at SS but be above average there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted Tuesday at 02:44 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:44 PM 21 hours ago, WestEddy said: The #Yankees have checked in with the #WhiteSox on CF Luis Robert Jr’s availability as a backup plan to Cody Bellinger. The Yankees are looking for an option to play Centerfield to allow Aaron Judge to go back to rightfield next season — Bartolo's Colonoscopy (@lakeview487) December 16, 2024 Robert would look good in a Yankees uni. And...IF he is healthy, I bet would have a monster season with the protection in that lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted Tuesday at 04:04 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:04 PM I like the Mets as a trade partner. They need a cf and a bat to protect Soto. They have a lot good not great prospects, most of which are blocked. Williams, Baty, Acuna, Maricio, Gilbert, Clifford, Rodriguez, Benge. Give me three of them and call it good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted Tuesday at 04:09 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:09 PM Three? They can't find anyone willing to offer up one legit player. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted Tuesday at 04:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:10 PM Oof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted Tuesday at 04:14 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:14 PM 7 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Three? They can't find anyone willing to offer up one legit player. Ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted Tuesday at 04:26 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:26 PM 18 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Three? They can't find anyone willing to offer up one legit player. Then they need to hang onto him and hope he can recover enough value to get something at the deadline. If not... oh well. He'll take the Moncada route out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted Tuesday at 04:29 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:29 PM 5 minutes ago, almagest said: Then they need to hang onto him and hope he can recover enough value to get something at the deadline. If not... oh well. He'll take the Moncada route out of here. I agree, although it’s a bit concerning that he will once again have no protection at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted Tuesday at 04:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:35 PM 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I agree, although it’s a bit concerning that he will once again have no protection at all. That definitely doesn't help him, but his approach and health are bigger problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted Tuesday at 04:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:50 PM 26 minutes ago, almagest said: Then they need to hang onto him and hope he can recover enough value to get something at the deadline. If not... oh well. He'll take the Moncada route out of here. Or he'll go the Dylan Cease route - he'll rake for a few weeks in ST, then somebody's CF will get injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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