White Sox asking for "top prospects" for Robert

[TheFutureIsNear]

18 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

Here's where you and I disagree - I think he was an oft-injured player most of his career. That's how I describe his 2021 and 2022. He was a star in 2023, until he was injured. He was oft-injured in 2024, and for the first time - really bad at baseball. 

To put this in another view, in hindsight, if the White Sox had traded Moncada for those 2 level of players in 2022, would that make the White Sox better today? I would say yes. And fwiw, the utility guy also stole 40 bases last year, so there's some other skill to that player too.

 

Apples to oranges. Our payroll is so low that Robert’s contract isn’t hindering a single thing. And our roster is so bad that adding prospects that don’t have the potential to make a big impact is almost meaningless. 
 

We shouldn’t be looking to move Robert to save money and potentially get slightly closer to mediocre.

[SoxBlanco]

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

No.

Coward. 

[southsider2k5]

11 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

Coward. 

Cool.

[Balta1701]

1 hour ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Apples to oranges. Our payroll is so low that Robert’s contract isn’t hindering a single thing. And our roster is so bad that adding prospects that don’t have the potential to make a big impact is almost meaningless. 
 

We shouldn’t be looking to move Robert to save money and potentially get slightly closer to mediocre.

But like Moncada, another bad season from Robert or another major injury and you seriously consider turning down the option on his contract. The end result would then be saving money and having nothing to show for him long term.

 

[Balta1701]

3 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Yeah the Sox would have to come down on their price and Cam Smith would have to be in deal.

Robert + Benintendi to Houston for Smith?

[Timmy U]

2 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Apples to oranges. Our payroll is so low that Robert’s contract isn’t hindering a single thing. And our roster is so bad that adding prospects that don’t have the potential to make a big impact is almost meaningless. 

Agreed, but there is one more important point: Sox system is very full right now. Easy to add elite talent to one of the teams but the rotations and line ups are very crowded everywhere above the Complex league. If you add 40/45 type players who are not ready for AA, they wouldn’t have any place to play. The rotations of Birmingham and W-S are full. Position player group at W-S and Kanny also full.

[Chicago White Sox]

10 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

Agreed, but there is one more important point: Sox system is very full right now. Easy to add elite talent to one of the teams but the rotations and line ups are very crowded everywhere above the Complex league. If you add 40/45 type players who are not ready for AA, they wouldn’t have any place to play. The rotations of Birmingham and W-S are full. Position player group at W-S and Kanny also full.

Yup, it’s really diminishing returns outside of a few spots.  Quality over quantity is key at this point and that may prove challenging right now with Robert.

[Whisox05]

 

 

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

1 hour ago, Whisox05 said:

 

 

Freeland and Ryan please and yes I know Ryan will miss the 2025 season

[Tnetennba]

Getz trading with LAD. What could possibly go wrong...

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

4 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Freeland and Ryan please and yes I know Ryan will miss the 2025 season

Ill take Freelans

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

Wow… just look at “stats”…. I want Morales from LAD

[Lyle Moooton]

I want Zyhir Hope. It’s who I was hoping we’d get for Crochet, but maybe we can talk them into it for Robert. A guy can dream. 

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/dodgers-exploring-alternatives-to-teoscar-hernandez.html

 

Robert piece is interesting as I’m surprised about the speculation that Robert could be less pricey to acquire than Suzuki in a trade.

[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/dodgers-exploring-alternatives-to-teoscar-hernandez.html

 

Robert piece is interesting as I’m surprised about the speculation that Robert could be less pricey to acquire than Suzuki in a trade.

Well, they are both owed basically the same money over the next three years but there are opt outs in Robert’s deal.  But Robert plays CF while Suzuki is a corner outfielder and three years older.  However, Suzuki has stayed healthy and has put up an .840+ OPS in back-to-back seasons while Robert is always injured.  I wouldn’t be too shocked if Suzuki does have more trade value.  It would be no contest if Robert wasn’t perpetually injured and had such a horseshit year last season.

Edited 3 hours ago by WhiteSox2023