would austin hays play here?

[zisk]

Could he be talked into playing on the south side? A very useful player to a better team. He and Beni could form a platoon.

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

I like the idea of Hays assuming he’ll cost less than $5M. He can play multiple OF positions and DH some. 

[WhiteSox2023]

I doubt Getz goes after him after he already landed his #1 target named Austin, a righty hitting outfielder as well.

[Timmy U]

If the Sox were the highest bidder, I bet he'd jump at the chance but only if the Sox made him their starting rf. He needs to shed the platoon label.

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

90% of players would play here if they were offered more money.

[Bob Sacamano]

He's a guy I think could get a starting gig somewhere so unless you're making him the starter in RF, I don't think he would sign here.

I would also play many of the mid-20 year olds we already have here (some that we traded for) to see what we have.

Edit: guess it also depends on how it shakes out possibly moving Benintendi and Robert.

Edited 1 hour ago by Bob Sacamano

[ChiSox59]

17 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

90% of players would play here if they were offered more money.

This. 

I also don't really see the point in Austin Hays.  Just let our fringe guys play in 25. 

Edited 1 hour ago by ChiSox59

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

10 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

This. 

I also don't really see the point in Austin Hays.  Just let our fringe guys play in 25. 

I actually like the idea of Hays because historically he was a 2-3 WAR player, PLUS we can get Fletcher and Colas plenty of playing time. Well not Colas, because they hate him.

[Bob Sacamano]

5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I actually like the idea of Hays because historically he was a 2-3 WAR player, PLUS we can get Fletcher and Colas plenty of playing time. Well not Colas, because they hate him.

Yeah as of now with the guys here, I would go with:

LF: DeLoach

CF: Robert

RF: Fletcher

DH: Benintendi 

Then gives guys some ABs in the DH spot here and there and let Benintendi play the OF.

So again, for me, it would depend on if they did move Robert or AB.

Edited 57 minutes ago by Bob Sacamano

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Yeah as of now with the guys here, I would go with:

LF: DeLoach

CF: Robert

RF: Fletcher

DH: Benintendi 

Then gives guys some ABs in the DH spot and let Benintendi play the OF.

Same, but truly I'd cut Benintendi if he can't be given away. 

[ChiSox59]

12 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I actually like the idea of Hays because historically he was a 2-3 WAR player, PLUS we can get Fletcher and Colas plenty of playing time. Well not Colas, because they hate him.

That's fair.  I guess if they find a way to dump Beni (outside of a Crochet deal, I refuse to believe that until it happens), it makes more sense.  But a roster with Beni, Robert and Hays, its going to be pretty tough to give Fletcher, Deloach and Colas they ABs we need to give them in 2025.  

Edited 51 minutes ago by ChiSox59

[Bob Sacamano]

3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

That's fair.  I guess if they find a way to dump Beni (outside of a Crochet deal, I refuse to believe that until it happens), it makes more sense.  But a roster with Beni, Robert and Hayes, its going to be pretty tough to give Fletcher, Deloach and Colas they ABs we need to give them in 2025.  

Feels safe to say that if Colas didn't get any shot in a year they lost over 120 games, he's a nonfactor to get much time in 2025.

[ChiSox59]

3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Same, but truly I'd cut Benintendi if he can't be given away. 

Why?  He was actually a solid baseball player from June on.  Its a real if, but IF he duplicates that performance April-June, he's tradeable (not for much return, but at least get the 26-27 $ off the books).  If Jerry is trying to run this thing as lean as possible, I'd prefer not to pay Benintendi to be a 1 WAR OF somewhere else. 

[ChiSox59]

5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Feels safe to say that if Colas didn't get any shot in a year they lost over 120 games, he's a nonfactor to get much time in 2025.

Yeah, I am hopeful that had more to do with Grifol, and the new regime will at least give him another shot.  But realize that may not be in the cards. I obviously don't see the behind the scenes stuff, and the on field stuff hasn't been pretty, but fuckina, give the guy an extended look.  What's the harm? 

Edited 52 minutes ago by ChiSox59

[Ducksnort]

35 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

90% of players would play here if they were offered more money.

Unfortunately, Zack Wheeler was in the 10%

[caulfield12]

29 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

He's a guy I think could get a starting gig somewhere so unless you're making him the starter in RF, I don't think he would sign here.

I would also play many of the mid-20 year olds we already have here (some that we traded for) to see what we have.

Edit: guess it also depends on how it shakes out possibly moving Benintendi and Robert.

A team like SD where he's eminently affordable and would fit in LF/1B/DH to replace the mix of Profar/Solano/Peralta, essentially.

[southsider2k5]

Hearing Hays story, if you are convinced of his return to health, he makes sense as a flip candidate.

[Bob Sacamano]

14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

A team like SD where he's eminently affordable and would fit in LF/1B/DH to replace the mix of Profar/Solano/Peralta, essentially.

You naming off 3 guys who hit from the left-side made me take a look to see if they are a potential candidate for a bad contract swap for AB.

[Quin]

55 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

90% of players would play here if they were offered more money.

Which is why most players won't be here.

26 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Feels safe to say that if Colas didn't get any shot in a year they lost over 120 games, he's a nonfactor to get much time in 2025.

I'm ready for him to go somewhere else and mash, then tell the press "they coached me."

[WestEddy]

1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

90% of players would play here if they were offered more money.

But more than that wouldn't play here if we were offering the same money as another team. Brewers and White Sox have identical contracts on the table for a right-fielder, which do you think he chooses? He picks the team that has a chance to compete, can produce better stats with protection in the lineup, and he has a better chance of living with his family the entire 7 months of the season. 

So we have to pay more? Why do we need to pay a premium for reclamation projects and 26th man platoon players? We did that with Slater. We overpaid him a ML contract instead of a minor league deal with an invite to camp. 

The Phillies saw Hays for 2+ months, and balked at paying him ~$6.4 million. So maybe he signs for $4-5 somewhere. Are you saying the White Sox should pay Hays $6 million to have a rehab RF for one season? Like others have said, what's the point? The Orioles got a good reliever in exchange for him.