caulfield12 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 2:16 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: The only reason the Cubs cut Canario in the first place is because they needed a 40-man roster spot to add Justin Turner. They wouldn’t want a guy that would require yet another 40-man roster spot in either Colas or Fletcher. Expand Scared of who they pick from the lower minors who's not on the 40 man roster at present time. Wilfred Veras, not sure they'd have any interest. Is he even an outfielder, or more a corner IF guy at present? Maybe Eder, Carela, Nastrini?...Mason Adams might be too highly thought of by some in the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) As an off season topic I was wondering how many people across the country actually buy mlb.com for the White Sox games this season. You think it's even 50 people? I think our team is so bad there literally could be only a dozen or two fans who buy mlb.com for white sox games. This team is irrelevant. ... Can you imagine trying to sell season tickets for this crew? The pitch would have to be how nice and comfy it'll be, being able to spread out and watch other teams come to town and perhaps catch a glimpse of some young pitchers who are our future. Edited February 21 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 2:20 AM, greg775 said: As an off season topic I was wondering how many people across the country actually buy mlb.com for the White Sox games this season. You think it's even 50 people? I think our team is so bad there literally could be only a dozen or two fans who buy mlb.com for white sox games. This team is irrelevant. ... Can you imagine trying to sell season tickets for this crew? The pitch would have to be how nice and comfy it'll be, being able to spread out and watch other teams come to town and perhaps catch a glimpse of some young pitchers who are our future. Expand 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 2:12 AM, caulfield12 said: Maybe trade Colas to them...or Fletcher. Although theoretically Colas MIGHT be able to play 1st...can't imagine him suddenly putting up the 850ish plus OPS numbers required for the position. Ofc, Vaughn's been lucky to post 700ish and he got rewarded for that season with almost a $6 million contract. At any rate, Colas Julks DeLoach and Fletcher all seem ticketed for Charlotte at this point. Expand In all of your ramblings, the Colas thing actually makes some sense. The franchise has buried him and refuses to play him, so what's the point of having him on the roster in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/21/2025 at 12:08 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: The dude is aging out quickly to be of any value to the next good White Sox team. The Sox sure don’t seem to have much faith in him either, after signing three free agent outfielders that will eat up any playing time he could have had. Expand I don't know what aging out even means with the shape of this roster. He's probably the youngest OF on the 40 man; there is probably 1 interesting OF prospect in the org, and that prospect hasn't played an inning. The putative closer is 31 and he's yet to have a good Major League season. Tanner Banks was a better reliever than some they signed for pretty decent money, and they never called him up until he was 30. But now that he worked out, we traded for the Red Sox version of Banks. He may not make it, probably won't, but I give a little performance grace for the disaster that was 2024. We have many pitching prospects in the org. a lot better than a lot of the pitchers on the 40 man. Not so with OF. No reason to jettison him now. Edited February 21 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 2:20 AM, greg775 said: As an off season topic I was wondering how many people across the country actually buy mlb.com for the White Sox games this season. You think it's even 50 people? I think our team is so bad there literally could be only a dozen or two fans who buy mlb.com for white sox games. Expand I'm one of those dozen dimwits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/21/2025 at 2:20 AM, greg775 said: This team is irrelevant. ... Can you imagine trying to sell season tickets for this crew? The pitch would have to be how nice and comfy it'll be, being able to spread out and watch other teams come to town and perhaps catch a glimpse of some young pitchers who are our future. Expand The last year i had a ticket package was 2021. I told my rep that I moved out of state and to take me off any marketing lists. I didn't get any calls until this year so they have to be desperate. I almost feel bad for them. Impossible to make commission and it's not their fault. Edited February 21 by DoUEvenShift 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/21/2025 at 2:25 AM, southsider2k5 said: In all of your ramblings, the Colas thing actually makes some sense. The franchise has buried him and refuses to play him, so what's the point of having him on the roster in the first place? Expand It still doesn’t make sense. The Cubs cut Canario to make room on their 40-man roster for the Justin Turner signing, which is now full again. The Cubs would have to DFA yet another player to make room for Colas. And ultimately, why would the Cubs want Colas instead of just DFA’ing a different player originally instead of Canario and keeping Canario from the start? Edited February 21 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 2:20 AM, greg775 said: As an off season topic I was wondering how many people across the country actually buy mlb.com for the White Sox games this season. You think it's even 50 people? I think our team is so bad there literally could be only a dozen or two fans who buy mlb.com for white sox games. This team is irrelevant. ... Can you imagine trying to sell season tickets for this crew? The pitch would have to be how nice and comfy it'll be, being able to spread out and watch other teams come to town and perhaps catch a glimpse of some young pitchers who are our future. Expand I don't know if I'm buying it so much as I never bothered to cancel it and it automatically renews every year....the video is very inconsistent in my new apartment here in China, but I still enjoy listening to all the games (listened to the Dodgers' feed this morning to go to sleep between 4-6 a.m., lol) and sometimes listening to DJ/Len when the spirit strikes me. They have GameDay Audio, but I look at it as my little small tiny insignificant contribution to MLB from afar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/21/2025 at 2:28 AM, GreenSox said: I don't know what aging out even means with the shape of this roster. He's probably the youngest OF on the 40 man; there is probably 1 interesting OF prospect in the org, and that prospect hasn't played an inning. The putative closer is 31 and he's yet to have a good Major League season. Tanner Banks was a better reliever than some they signed for pretty decent money, and they never called him up until he was 30. But now that he worked out, we traded for the Red Sox version of Banks. He may not make it, probably won't, but I give a little performance grace for the disaster that was 2024. We have many pitching prospects in the org. a lot better than a lot of the pitchers on the 40 man. Not so with OF. No reason to jettison him now. Expand The Sox have signed three free agent outfielders to play in front of him. It isn’t happening here. It was a bad trade to begin with but Fletcher has shown nothing anyways. The dude is the outfielder version of Madrigal. Edited February 21 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 2:32 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: It still doesn’t make sense. The Cubs cut Canario to make room on their 40-man roster for the Justin Turner signing, which is now full again. The Cubs would have to DFA yet another player to make room for Colas. And ultimately, why would they want Colas instead of just keeping Canario from the start? Expand The same reason the Boston Red Sox might prefer Benintendi over Yoshida...they might think he would be "reinvigorated" to play for the team where he used to almost be accorded "hero status," for example, a new lease on life for Colas, no longer an "indentured servant," can just be himself, etc. In fact, Andrew Benintendi was the ONE completely unavailable player that Boston refused Hahn from acquiring in the Chris Sale trade. The other arguments about that trade typically have been about including Devers as the 3rd player instead of Basabe/Diaz. Or magically wishing they'd acquired Devers INSTEAD of Moncada, that's yet another recrimination. Maybe the Cubs see something in him the White Sox don't (as pretty much every MLB playoff team did last year with any Sox relievers that came onto the market)....who knows? Reconverting him to pitching? Anything's possible I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/21/2025 at 2:39 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: The Sox have signed three free agent outfielders to play in front of him. It isn’t happening here. It was a bad trade to begin with but Fletcher has shown nothing anyways. The dude is the outfielder version of Madrigal. Expand Well, he does at least have a PLUS RFer's arm. Madrigal...I guess he had a hit tool, in theory, for average/contact. More like 75% of one tool, lol. Edited February 21 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/21/2025 at 2:44 AM, caulfield12 said: Well, he does at least have a PLUS RFer's arm. Madrigal...I guess he had a hit tool, in theory, for average/contact. More like 75% of one tool, lol. Expand So does Canario, along with way more power and being 3 years younger. Perhaps they’d take back a pitcher from us that they like more than a reliever on their 40-man roster, but I’d be surprised if the Cubs don’t trade Canario for minor league prospect(s) that don’t require 40-man spot(s). Edited February 21 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 T-Mobile gives MLB.tv away otherwise hell no. Even with the free product I will be lucky to watch 200 or so innings this year unless we have a miracle strong start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 3:00 AM, chitownsportsfan said: T-Mobile gives MLB.tv away otherwise hell no. Even with the free product I will be lucky to watch 200 or so innings this year unless we have a miracle strong start. Expand Thank goodness for that annual deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 i’m still debating on renewing my mlb.tv package. on one hand, this team will be trash again. on the other, i enjoy the simple pleasure of a sox game on in the background in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 You know what deal probably makes sense for both teams? Mike Tauchman for Alexander Canario. Now that would be fascinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/21/2025 at 3:12 AM, Y2Jimmy0 said: You know what deal probably makes sense for both teams? Mike Tauchman for Alexander Canario. Now that would be fascinating. Expand Haha, I just read a Cubs board and a poster said it would have made a ton of sense in hindsight for the Cubs to retain Tauchman rather than non-tender him had they known they would eventually have to DFA Canario, since outfield depth is now an issue for them. I’d be all for that move. Fletcher and Colas could still have life as the remaining lefty hitting right fielders and Jerry would even save a little over a million bucks! Edited February 21 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 3:05 AM, thedoctor said: i’m still debating on renewing my mlb.tv package. on one hand, this team will be trash again. on the other, i enjoy the simple pleasure of a sox game on in the background in the summer. Expand I see from your profile that you are in central Ohio. It’s probably too far away from you, but have you tried to pick up the CHSN channel over-the-air with an antenna? Their website says they have a channel available in Edgerton, Ohio. Edgerton, OH: WINM, 12.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 3:17 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: I see from your profile that you are in central Ohio. It’s probably too far away from you, but have you tried to pick up the CHSN channel over-the-air with an antenna? Their website says they have a channel available in Edgerton, Ohio. Edgerton, OH: WINM, 12.3 Expand interesting. thanks for the tip. I’ll give it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) But a source with knowledge of ESPN’s approach to the negotiations disputed the idea that the split was mutual. The source told CNN that ESPN opted out of the contract and was surprised by Commissioner Rob Manfred’s note to MLB owners that the league and network had mutually agreed to end their relationship. The source noted that ESPN had an opt-out clause in the contract and decided to exercise it on Thursday. The move amounts to a big bet by MLB on its ability to attract new investment by a different company, whether that involves streaming or traditional cable companies. The market for media rights to live sports contests has become increasingly lucrative in recent years as sports remain some of the only consistent ratings draws for cable and broadcast networks. The league believes it is riding a wave of momentum and interest that should improve upon that ESPN deal. MLB drew its largest live attendance figures in seven years last season, drawing more than 71.3 million fans into ballparks during 2024. It also saw jumps in television viewership, including on ESPN’s “Sunday Night Baseball,” which is typically the premier game of the week and has been a staple of the baseball weekly viewing schedule for years. https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/20/sport/espn-mlb-end-relationship-spt/index.html Edited February 21 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) Looking beyond the obvious contenders (Comcast--used to have exclusive Sunday AM broadcasts, Peacock/NBC, Paramount, FOX, Apple, Amazon), the broadcast “netlets” are both hungry for sports programming and legitimacy, and as such may be more willing to pay to get their foot in the “Big Four” door. Nexstar’s CW just attracted 1.8 million for last weekend’s NASCAR Xfinity Series season opener, the first race of its new $115 million/year rights deal and the largest audience for the series in three years. Scripps had success with Friday night WNBA last year and is expected, along with CBS, to renew for upwards of $100 million/year. Ultimately, leagues tend to get the kind of money they are looking for, and one imagines Manfred would not be so bold if he did not have a suitable replacement for ESPN waiting in the wings. Yet given how baseball has handled its national rights negotiations so far, one cannot completely rule out the possibility that the league has simply botched the negotiations. https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2025/02/mlb-espn-split-blame-media-strategy-roku-apple-deals/ Edited February 21 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 3:12 AM, Y2Jimmy0 said: You know what deal probably makes sense for both teams? Mike Tauchman for Alexander Canario. Now that would be fascinating. Expand Can they even trade Tauchman this soon given that they just signed him this offseason? I’m not sure how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 1:52 AM, Y2Jimmy0 said: How do they acquire him though? Expand Oops my bad forgot they'd have to trade for him so would make no sense to just release him . The cost ends up too high because now you have to find a way to rid yourself of someone with a guaranteed contract. Doubt Robert is traded in the next day or 2 but in the event that he is traded before the season starts you need Taylor for CF. That makes Slater the odd man out which would be a bad look for the Sox considering they signed him 1st because of Fuller and because he's a good weak side Platoon bat and fit Getz OBP philosophy. And also raved about him being the main guy they wanted. That all makes Carnario too expensive to acquire. Both Slater and Taylor have incentive clauses too. It does suck when you're so desperate for a young power bat that when one pops up you can't take a flyer on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 3:12 AM, Y2Jimmy0 said: You know what deal probably makes sense for both teams? Mike Tauchman for Alexander Canario. Now that would be fascinating. Expand Ha probably back to Sheets level RF defense too. And 2 RH guys screw up the platoon Getz set up so early in the off season. But it is interesting.Both teams end up with a little egg on their faces for their off season weirdness . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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