Nardiwashere Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 Other teams are trying to get Juan Soto. We are pining for some guy named Ben Rice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted December 4 Author Share Posted December 4 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: I don't see how Eder could have any value right now. Would you swap in a better-performing minor league pitcher, someone maybe like Burke who could help them this season? Maybe, depends on the prospect. But Rice is a 26 year old, bat only player and not in the Yankees’ immediate plans given his initial struggles last year. I don’t think the price will be all that crazy. I also don’t think Eder has zero value. A LH reliever has value and that outcome is still possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 46 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Maybe, depends on the prospect. But Rice is a 26 year old, bat only player and not in the Yankees’ immediate plans given his initial struggles last year. I don’t think the price will be all that crazy. I also don’t think Eder has zero value. A LH reliever has value and that outcome is still possible. Let's face it...the Yankees got a LH reliever from the White Sox this year for a lower price than a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5 Author Share Posted December 5 5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Let's face it...the Yankees got a LH reliever from the White Sox this year for a lower price than a prospect. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 16 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who? Tim Hill? Picked up after being released. No reason for them to go after an Eder when they can just wait for guys to be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 11 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Tim Hill? Picked up after being released. No reason for them to go after an Eder when they can just wait for guys to be released. They also got that Cousins guy who pitched good for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5 Author Share Posted December 5 13 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Tim Hill? Picked up after being released. No reason for them to go after an Eder when they can just wait for guys to be released. I guess no one should ever trade for relievers then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Tim Hill? Picked up after being released. No reason for them to go after an Eder when they can just wait for guys to be released. They’re not talking about trading someone good for Eder. Rice is more of a JAG than prospect. Edited December 5 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 32 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Tim Hill? Picked up after being released. No reason for them to go after an Eder when they can just wait for guys to be released. Weird. I missed all the comments crying that the White Sox weren't coaching Tim Hill up to the great pitcher we all knew he could be. I only remember the ones calling for him to be DFAed, or never even signed in the first place because he had no business in the game of baseball, he sucked so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 35 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I guess no one should ever trade for relievers then. Quite frankly, yes, Minor League relievers are garbage. Anyone remember when Rick Hahn spent 2018-2019 piling them up and then got literally 0 big league relievers out of the ones he traded for? Show me that he's actually able to have some success as a reliever. Dude literally has zero value right now. There is a good chance that he could be moved through waivers right now without being claimed. You're literally saying "They should give us this player for free". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 17 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Weird. I missed all the comments crying that the White Sox weren't coaching Tim Hill up to the great pitcher we all knew he could be. I only remember the ones calling for him to be DFAed, or never even signed in the first place because he had no business in the game of baseball, he sucked so bad. To be fair, I wasn't here because Chris Getz felt the need to willingly sign a player who no one else in the league wanted because he beats women. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 37 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: They’re not talking about trading someone good for Eder. Rice is more of a JAG than prospect. Then pick him up when he's put on waivers, same as Eder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Then pick him up when he's put on waivers, same as Eder. Agreed. I would actually think you could probably get Rice for less than an Eder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5 Author Share Posted December 5 21 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Quite frankly, yes, Minor League relievers are garbage. Anyone remember when Rick Hahn spent 2018-2019 piling them up and then got literally 0 big league relievers out of the ones he traded for? Show me that he's actually able to have some success as a reliever. Dude literally has zero value right now. There is a good chance that he could be moved through waivers right now without being claimed. You're literally saying "They should give us this player for free". I seriously doubt he could be moved through waivers. Have you seen the type of guys that get picked up on the regular? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I seriously doubt he could be moved through waivers. Have you seen the type of guys that get picked up on the regular? Like a guy with an ERA of 10 at AAA? Just do me a favor, don't come back in a year if this Rice guy puts up a 1 WAR season and say that you called him being ok...because you're not willing to trade anything for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5 Author Share Posted December 5 12 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Like a guy with an ERA of 10 at AAA? Just do me a favor, don't come back in a year if this Rice guy puts up a 1 WAR season and say that you called him being ok...because you're not willing to trade anything for him. Damn, someone ate their Wheaties this morning with all these hard flexes. You word for word asked me if I would trade a better prospect than Eder for Rice and I replied “Sure, it depends on the prospect”. You’re obsessed with the Eder part of the idea (which I came up with in two seconds because an MLB.com writer had him as part of a mock trade to the Yankees) whereas the point was trying to buy low on Rice. And while I disagree on Eder’s value, I would trade a better pitching prospect for him like I already stated. But keep on flexing brother and get that anger out of your system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5 Author Share Posted December 5 21 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Like a guy with an ERA of 10 at AAA? Just do me a favor, don't come back in a year if this Rice guy puts up a 1 WAR season and say that you called him being ok...because you're not willing to trade anything for him. And like I said earlier in this thread, I wanted him as part of a Cease package last year. Does that count as being willing to trade something for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Plan? Ya’ll think there’s a plan?? I think it’s pretty much this: ✅ Get a new manager and some new coaches ✅ Trade the G ✅ Try to trade R ✅ Field any team that costs next to nothing Play ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: To be fair, I wasn't here because Chris Getz felt the need to willingly sign a player who no one else in the league wanted because he beats women. You still don’t know he was cleared? I thought this had already been explained to you repeatedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 5 minutes ago, hi8is said: Plan? Ya’ll think there’s a plan?? I think it’s pretty much this: ✅ Get a new manager and some new coaches ✅ Trade the G ✅ Try to trade R ✅ Field any team that costs next to nothing Play ball. Yeah, pretty much this. Slater is there big signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 16 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: You still don’t know he was cleared? I thought this had already been explained to you repeatedly Mike Clevinger beat up at least one woman and has other abuse allegations against him and Chris Getz paid a premium price for that in an offseason where he spent the whole time trying to find leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 I wonder if Red Sox fans are now boycotting their team too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 39 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: I wonder if Red Sox fans are now boycotting their team too Ah the famous compliment, being compared to Red Sox fans. Well done Getz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 8 hours ago, hi8is said: Plan? Ya’ll think there’s a plan?? I think it’s pretty much this: ✅ Get a new manager and some new coaches ✅ Trade the G ✅ Try to trade R ✅ Field any team that costs next to nothing Play ball. ✅ Continue to beg for a new ballpark funded by taxpayers. And that should about cover it for the next 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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